Tim Seifert said, 

> It's about damn time this got renamed.  Kilo means one thousand, no
> matter what base system you use to write the numbers in.  Whether that
> be as one time ten to the third power, or anything else. 1024 (decimal)
> bytes is *not* one thousand anythings in any way shape or form.

The convention when using it for computer usage (and using 1024 makes a
great deal of sense in many situations) is to use "k" for 1000 and "K"
for 1024. 5KB is larger than 5kB (and a lot bigger than 5kb).
Unfortunately, this falls down when you start talking megabytes, 5mb is
rather too small to be useful.


Neil
-- 
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
"Bother," said Pooh, as the Death Star exploded around him.

"sealey, m." <mws-@leicester.ac.uk> wrote: 
> Intel (or AMD) Windows, because Alpha and m68k systems are
> 
> a) undersupported (m68k)
> b) overpriced (Alpha)
> c) *difficult to manage* (Linux)
> d) insecure (AmigaOS)
I was under the impression you used an amiga, sorry, so why exactly are
you on teh afb list then ?


> Which Ford, which Clarks' Shoes and which type of Tesco Beans (normal,
> or No Frills.
no point, you were not involved in the choice of the os and i am not
really in a position to tell people who made that choice what they
should do yet. another thread dies..

> None at all? Where did you get it from, then (software I mean) and
what
> is it running now?
Watford Systems, (back of computer shopper), very cheap but you have to
DIY it, and only a 1 year warrenty. I got a SUSE install disk from
there website and a 6.2 CD from cheapbyes for 3.95, which i thought was
very good. No manuals or anything but it was as cheap as i could get a
computer. (during the time my amiga nearly died).

-matthew

Hi,

Anyone know if there's a PC Amigaguide viewer anywhere on the net? I could
really do with one at the moment. I've checked Aminet before you ask :)

 Neil -
 http://www.trogsoft.co.uk  -  tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net
 --
 "The next time I see that journalist I'll beat him around the head with my
tin whistle!" - Andrea Corr

> > "If you include a signature keep it short. Rule of thumb is no longer
than
> > 4 lines. Remember that many people pay for connectivity by the minute,
and
> > the longer your message is, the more they pay."
>
> Quoted Stephen, with a five line signature.  ;-)  Now which one of us
> wants to install Amiga OS 1.1 on his computer for punishment.
>
I will.....I have the disks upstairs with my A1000.....great old
machine...anyone
know where I can get a replacement top cover?...I cannot find mine (I don't
think
it had one when I bought it!!)

Michael

> I just got hold of WipeOut 64 for my N64 and it is hot!
> Im just wondering if anyone has compared this version to our own?

I am thinking of buying this for my N64 is it 4 player...Special Reserve
say its isn't but I sware that the N64 was....I really want to play Wipeout
with 4 people!!!....much better than slooooow mario kart (well on a speed
comparision Wipeout rocks!!)

Michael

Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone out there in AFBland has a copy of AFCD1 that they
wouldnt mind parting with. I happened to get my first CD ROM not long after
that issue came out but by that time all the CD editions had gone :-(. I
know all the stuff on it is probably all outdated and by current AFCD
standards is not very good but its the only one I don't have and I would
like to have the full set, as I have with CUCD's and AACD's.
Please mail me privately if you can help.
TIA.

Kind regards
-- 
<tsb>
Dave Morgan - phonix@reggae.musician.org.uk (Home)     ICQ:24796509
Amiga A1200, CBM 1084s 14" Monitor, Blizzard 1230/50, 68882, SCSI Kit, 2MB
chip, 48MB Fast, Western Digital 1.8Gb HD, Seagate 520MB HD, Matshita
8xSpeed Atapi/Ide CD-ROM, Plextor 12x Speed SCSI CD-Rom, Ricoh 6201s SCSI
CD-RW, Canon bjc-4200 printer, Microtek E3 scsi scanner, Hayes Accura
56k/v.90 modem.

<tsb>
Imagine all the modems, linking all the world! (ooh ooh hoo hoo)

<tsb>

"neil bullock" <tsof-@tsoft.screaming.net> wrote: 
> Anyone know if there's a PC Amigaguide viewer anywhere on the net? I
could
> really do with one at the moment. I've checked Aminet before you ask
:)
Yes, its called winguide (wow!), unfortunatly the site seems to be
down. The only page i can access is a cached one, try,...

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:wiktor.dk/~amiga/Various/DownloadA
miPC.html

until its comes back online, so near and yet so far.

-matthew

Hello Neil,

On 03-Dez-99, you wrote:

> Anyone know if there's a PC Amigaguide viewer anywhere on the net? I
> could really do with one at the moment. I've checked Aminet before you
> ask :)

misc/emu: winguide.lha

Go stand in the corner... ;)

Regards
-- 
Oliver Esberger - mailto:oliver@websale.de

> On 03-Dez-99, you wrote:
> > Anyone know if there's a PC Amigaguide viewer anywhere on the net? I
> > could really do with one at the moment. I've checked Aminet before you
> > ask :)
> misc/emu: winguide.lha

Ooh lovely. Thanks to Matthew as well :)

> Go stand in the corner... ;)

Oh. I will. Don't worry. I blame the parents... oops... wrong list

 Neil - with a stuck tagline
 http://www.trogsoft.co.uk  -  tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net
 --
 "The next time I see that journalist I'll beat him around the head with my
tin whistle!" - Andrea Corr

"alex furmanski" <a.furmansk-@virgin.net> wrote: 
> I've written an HTML page, but it uses Javascript, Style Sheets and
DHTML
> (sort of) and looks great in IE but I was wondering if some kind
souls would
> check it to make sure it looks okay in not-quite-so-fancy browsers.
>
> You'll find it at http://freespace.virgin.net/anna.furmanski/htmltest
.html
This nice, IE4, seems to like it, as does Naviagtor 4.5. If anybody
doesnt mind, i think i am qualified to talk about this.

None of the latest Amiga browsers, support any kind of Style Sheets,
and the best Javascript support is in AWeb. I think its just a matter
of time before voyager supports a decent set of JS1.3, so you should be
ok as long as you stick within that.  

> BTW- what do navigator.appname and navigator.appversion return in the
latest
> amiga browsers?
Just what you would expect,.. AWeb 3.2 // IBrowse 2.1 // Voyager 3,
these are
good as they can be used to have diffrent code depending on the
browser. I mean, a plan page or alynx, some javascript for amiga
browsers and the full blown version for IE5, and Netscape4.7.

This is a blatent plug for my site, but i think its shows some good
examples.
http://www.amimjf.connectfree.co.uk

-matthew

> On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:59:31 -0800, Alan Sheriff (alansheriff@hotmail.com)
> wrote:

>> I`m pretty p*****d off with Blittersoft for leading me on. "Oh, yes
>> sir, you`ll definately have the cards before Christmas".

> In March I ordered a CyberStormPPC and a ConciertoIV for my P4, both from
> Blittersoft.  I was told that I would have both cards within 2 months.

> After 6 months I cancelled both.  I managed to procure a CyberStormPPC by
> phoning White Knight Technologies, but couldn't source a Concierto
> anywhere.  i'm now waiting for a Prelude direct from Germany.

> Kev

Looks like Blittersoft are having a hard time, I too order a PIV from them
and it took almost 4 months to deliver.  Hmm!!

Darren

Regards

>> 2. Change the bus board to a Z4 type @ about =A3150.00 ukp with Video
>> adaptor. You have got the video adaptor for the current bus board havn=
't
>> you ( I forgot this)

> No I haven't got the video adaptor Picasso II does not need one

Are you sure it doesn't need one, where's the video signal going to come
from for the Picasso. it doesn't come via the Micronik (I don't think). I=
'm
sure you will need the video adaptor which connects onto the A1200 mother=

board and then to the Zorro bus board.

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong

Thanks

Darren
 =

On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 19:01:28 +0100, Darren Silcock (darren@d-m-s=2Efsnet=2E=
co=2Euk) wrote:
> >> 2=2E Change the bus board to a Z4 type @ about =A3150=2E00 ukp with Vi=
deo
> >> adaptor=2E You have got the video adaptor for the current bus board ha=
vn't
> >> you ( I forgot this)
>=20
> > No I haven't got the video adaptor Picasso II does not need one
>=20
> Are you sure it doesn't need one, where's the video signal going to come
> from for the Picasso=2E it doesn't come via the Micronik (I don't think)=
=2E I'm
> sure you will need the video adaptor which connects onto the A1200 mother
> board and then to the Zorro bus board=2E

The PicassoII is just a zorro 2 gfx card=2E  It doesn't need a video slot,
therefore Wesley doesn't need the Micronik adaptor that attatches to the
A1200 m/b=2E  I believe the problem has already been identified as the Apol=
lo
accelerator he is using=2E
=20
> Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong

No problem  ;-)

Kev

--=20
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267

Hi,..

To all who witnessed that nasty litte session with M.Sealey, it got a
bit out of hand and i should have removed it from the list. As he seems
to have shut up now, i will do to, i just hope nobody had to pay to
download any of that.

-a sorry matthew.

On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:10:30 -0800, Matthew J Fletcher (amimjf@hotmail.com) wrote:
> Hi,..

Hello.

> To all who witnessed that nasty litte session with M.Sealey, it got a
> bit out of hand and i should have removed it from the list. As he seems
> to have shut up now, i will do to, i just hope nobody had to pay to
> download any of that.

I would say that the majority of people on this list will have to pay to
download it.  And as a graduate with a well paid job, I was more inclined
to agree with Mr Sealey than yourself.  For a start, the majority of your
arguments were either grammatically incorrect or full of spelling
mistakes.  And then there is the blatant fact that, in the real world,
having a degree might help get you in for an interview.  If you're lucky.

In this day and age, having proven ability and experience is a
pre-requisite for the majority of IT jobs.  I was lucky - I was able to
convince a company to take me on as a graduate trainee.  However, 99% of
positions vacant in any issue of Computing or Computer Weekly will specify
that you need at least 2 years experience.  Then once you've shown that
you've worked in the industry for 2 years, you'll need to prove ability in
any number of required skills, be this writing pseudo code or building a
PC, whatever the job entails.

For example, I went for a job right after I left university.  They wanted a
Visual Basic programmer, and although I was able to prove myself a better
programmer than the guy they took on, he had ten years VB experience,
whilst I had none.

Kev

PS  Being a student means nothing these days anyway - universities are
taking on more and more people, dropping the standards continually, on the
grounds that the more people they enrol, the more money they get.  They
know for a fact that many will drop out due to the increasing financial
pressures, or simply because the work is too hard.

PPS I know that my email in which I deride someone's spelling and grammer
is full of error's in itself, but after nearly getting killed by a flying
ladder whilst driving at 60 mph, I feel i've got a valid excuse!   ;-)

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267

Kevin Fairhurst wrote:

> PS I will tell you - Augusta Ada Byron, Countess of Lovelace (1815-52), was
> daughter of Lord Byron, and the assistant and patron of Charles Babbage.
> She worked on his mechanical analytical engine, and thus in a way could be
> considered the world's first programmer!  Whether she just used it to write
> a database of knitting patterns or great recipes will remain forever
> unknown ...

And we wonder why there aren't more women on this list...  ;)

Regards,
Jonny.
--
The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard.

colin buckenham <coli-@datatechdtp.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=38734
> Hello Maarten

thanx colin, but I had the same problem with 3.0 ROMS. A new installer
did not work with my Squirrel.

maarten

On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 19:40:05 +0000, Jonathan M. Dudley (jonny@thelabyrinth.free-online.co.uk) wrote:
> Kevin Fairhurst wrote:
> 
> > PS I will tell you - Augusta Ada Byron, Countess of Lovelace (1815-52), was
> > daughter of Lord Byron, and the assistant and patron of Charles Babbage.
> > She worked on his mechanical analytical engine, and thus in a way could be
> > considered the world's first programmer!  Whether she just used it to write
> > a database of knitting patterns or great recipes will remain forever
> > unknown ...
> 
> And we wonder why there aren't more women on this list...  ;)

Hey, what's wrong with a little sarcasm and scathing wit every now and
again?  I know I used neither, but never mind ...

Kev

PS  I didn't remember all of those details by the way, I had to look them
up.
-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267

patrice champarou <pmcham-@club-internet.fr> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=38735

> A simple answer I previously received about a similar
> problem: do your HDToolbox tooltypes fit your Squirrel's
> controller?

Always the same one answering me.
But to answer your question
AFAIK yes the do, but I check again.

BTW Cave was great.
look in your mail

Centrale Uitgang
maarten

> >   Hi Martin  I had the same problem but if i change to view icons
it works.Its a strange beast .
>     Hope this helps.

sounds good but pleez explain.

thanx
maarten                

"tim seifert" <tim_seifer-@picknowl.com.au> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=38830

> You do have the HDToolBox tooltype set for the right device?

AFAIK yes, but i'll check again. I had the same problem with 3.0ROMs
and a new toolbox.

> 
> e.g. scsi_device_name=squirrelscsi.device
> 
> If the 3.5 install is anything like other OS install scripts, they
make
> *thorough* stuff up of icons that you already had (tooltypes, default
> tools, positions, etc.).
> 
> Bye,
> Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)
> 
> -- 

Greetings  Matthew 

On 01-Dec-99, you wrote:

> On 30-Nov-99, Andy Kinsella wrote:

>> If MUI so hot, why do the developers of the major commercial apps
>> not use it?

> So voyager, ibrowse, yam, stricq and so on are just a few 16 snotty
> kids writing a few lines of code for a laff?

Since when was yam or stricq a commercial app'?

By major App's, I mean the likes of Pagestream, ImageFX etc. Software
I use all the time; not just for a few minutes a day while i fetch my
mail.


> Mash - 
Regards

Andy
-- 
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Imagine textures and a few pictures@<http://esox.cjb.net>
/PGP Key available on request/

"Like the butterfly that can't fly steady;
always movin' with that flow, that energy"
-- Luciano

Got me a perfect add-on for my Amiga today for 35 pounds.

P133 with 32Mb, 3Gig, 15" mon, scanner sampler and the lot.
It's a great slave for my A1200T, but much cheaper then a SCSI-scanner.


CU
maarten

--- amipal@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > first products will dribble out before
> Christmas, but the real
> production
> > > will be available before the end of January.

I phoned Power, and the woman on the other end of the
phone said that it "was just a rumour".

Ah well, maybe the boss hasn't told everyone yet?
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Hello Michael

On 02-Dec-99, you wrote:

>> I just got hold of WipeOut 64 for my N64 and it is hot!
>> Im just wondering if anyone has compared this version to our own?
> =

> I am thinking of buying this for my N64 is it 4 player...Special Reserv=
e
> say its isn't but I sware that the N64 was....I really want to play Wip=
eout
> with 4 people!!!....much better than slooooow mario kart (well on a spe=
ed
> comparision Wipeout rocks!!)

Jup, 1-4 players.  You need a fairly large tv with this though otherwise =
the individual pictures are tichie!
What they really need to implement is multiple TV capabilities (much like=
 the dreamcast and our Quake.) Cool.

Regards
-- =

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(Sam Byford)
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Greetings  xatiminey 

On 03-Dec-99, you wrote:

> Ben Vost wrote:


> Oh, I don't know about that - I rather like the wheel I made, and
> the ion engine I'm currently working on. Its such a shame that
> boolean subtractions dont add faces to the holes it makes in
> objects. Anyone know how to get around this?

the point of doing a subtraction is surely so you end up with a hole?
Why would you want it filled in? Unless you need a lid or somewhat?

Maybe an intersection, rather than subtraction is what you need. I
have c4d installed, but I havn't used it enough to know what boolean
options it has.

Something like imagine's slice (if it actualy worked all the time :/)
which creates a seperated object where anything intersects, so you can
just delete what you don't need. A good way to do it; if it wasn't so
hit and miss :)

> -curry
Regards

Andy
-- 
<andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk>
Imagine textures and a few pictures@<http://esox.cjb.net>
/PGP Key available on request/

Everybody is talking about the weather but nobody does anything about it.
-- Mark Twain

Greetings  David 

On 03-Dec-99, you wrote:

> Hi people;

> I`ve been playing around with an old vista pro coverdisk and 
> have decided that DEMS from closer to home would be useful. Mars 
> is a bit far way, so is most of America :))
> Does anyone know where I can get DEM files from the UK, 
> preferably Northern Ireland???? I searched the net last night 
> for ages, but couldn`t find anything.

Maybe this should be added to a FAQ, as i tend to answer it a fair
bit ;)

Digital mapping data is available for the UK ; but unlike the US Gov'
ours doesn't place this data in the public domain; so you can get it
(not necesserily in DEM format), but you have to pay.

Check out the ordinance survey website.
http://www.ordinance-survey.co.uk at a guess. Could be wrong.

> Thanks

> DJAMIGO: Student of Biochem at QUB
>
Regards

Andy
-- 
<andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk>
Imagine textures and a few pictures@<http://esox.cjb.net>
/PGP Key available on request/

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.
-- Albert Einstein

Hi Mat,

On 03-Dec-99 you wrote:

>> By definition, a person with a degree on the subject does know more
>> about it.  Or would you still like your local GP as much, if they
>> weren't qualified?  ;-)

> By definition, a degree garners more respect for the individual.

Uhm, being pedantic (because I am :), by /definition/, a degree is an
indication that someone has studied a subject and demonstrated enough
knowledge of it to aquire a qualification.

It doesn't garner respect - respect must be earned and a piece of paper
isn't enough IMO (although I concede it may be enough to earn your respect -
I don't give mine away so freely), and it certainly doesn't prove that
someone knows more than any other person - that other person may simply not
have a similar degree yet.

So you're both wrong (especially Seely :), ner!

Martin.
-- 
<tsb>http://www.amine.co.uk

Hello folks,  my wife bought me for present a HP Scanjet 3200C with
parallel port. Can I connect it to my A4000 or do I need a HyperCom or
IOBlix card with full parallel port?  Also, does anyone knows software
that is compatible with the scanner?  Please, send e-mails...  Kostas...

Pfffffffff!

On 03-Dec-99, you wrote:

> To all who witnessed that nasty litte session with M.Sealey, 
[ snip ]

>  I would say that the majority of people on this list 
[ snip again ]

... and without blaming anyone, I-the minority am really fed up :(
Maybe the holidays are over,  maybe you ( should I say we? ) were 
too much off-topic only a month ago, but now it's getting more 
and more depressing, so....
 
   I'll You In The Spring, When The Birds Begin To Sing!
                                      ( Memphis Jug Band, 1928 )

   Patrice
-- 
'It is too late'
( William Shakespeare - Othello, act 5, scene 2 )

Hello Tim

On 02-Dec-99, you wrote:

>TS You do have the HDToolBox tooltype set for the right device?
>TS 
>TS e.g. scsi_device_name=squirrelscsi.device

Yes, that was one of the first things that I checked. I also checked 
everything else that others advised me to, all to no avail. It wasn't until
I individually checked each Rom 'leg' that the problem cured itself, and
with the exeption of ImageFX problems everything now works just fine.


All the best

Colin



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Tim Seifert said, 

> Hi Chris,

>>> Most people would probably be happy with a letter or email containing an
>>> explanation of the situation, an apology for any inconvenience and a
>>> commitment to supply a fixed CD when the situation is resolved.

>> I certainly would be happy with that. I don't care how the CD is cut, be it
>> with a burner or a duplicator, I just want a disk free of corrupt files.
>> Perhaps Active should try it, or at the very least respond to some of the
>> emails, faxes and phone messages I've sent them!

> One would think, that in the interim, they'd find someone else to burn
> CDs so that they can sell their product, as well as keep their existing
> customers happy.

Who would pay for duplicating those CDs? Active have already paid
for one lot of duplication. And then what happens when/if the original
duplicators admit fault and agree to produce another batch for free?
Active would have two lotsa of CDs, two duplication bills but only one
lot of sales.

However, I spoke to Active today, they have reached agreement with the
duplicators and new CDs will be pressed after Christmas.


Neil
-- 
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
"Bother," said Pooh, as someone else stole his taglines.

Hi Andrew, on 3. Dec 1999 you wrote:

> As soon as someone on this list told me about it,
> I immediately used the number I got when I got
> the C4d serial number.

Good, hope you will enjoy your C4D even more now.

You have got the full set of programs.
Compared with the HiSoft CD, it is just (approx.)
250 MB of pictures and animations, 80 MB of scenes,
100 MB of textures, 20 MB of bumpmaps and 6 MB of
materials that are missing.


Cheers,

Armin

 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Neil Bothwick <neil@wire.net.uk>
 To:  Tim Seifert <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  04-Dec-99 05:34:37
 Re:  [afb] Re: Further to the Active thread..

Hi Neil,

>>>> Most people would probably be happy with a letter or email containing an
>>>> explanation of the situation, an apology for any inconvenience and a
>>>> commitment to supply a fixed CD when the situation is resolved.

>>> I certainly would be happy with that. I don't care how the CD is cut, be 
>>> with a burner or a duplicator, I just want a disk free of corrupt files.
>>> Perhaps Active should try it, or at the very least respond to some of the
>>> emails, faxes and phone messages I've sent them!

>> One would think, that in the interim, they'd find someone else to burn
>> CDs so that they can sell their product, as well as keep their existing
>> customers happy.

> Who would pay for duplicating those CDs? Active have already paid
> for one lot of duplication. And then what happens when/if the original
> duplicators admit fault and agree to produce another batch for free?
> Active would have two lotsa of CDs, two duplication bills but only one
> lot of sales.

Lets see.  I make a product, and have to sell it to make money.  My CD
duplicator stuffs it.  Do I do nothing, while waiting for them to own
up, or find someone else, get back into business, and *also* deal with
the distributor who stuffed it, possibly getting compensation for
damaged sales?

As a person who produces video tapes, if I went to a bulk duplicator,
and they screwed up, and wouldn't fix it.  My first action would be to
get someone else to get the job out on the market, then sue the one who
screwed it, and knobbled my business.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Neil Bothwick <neil@wire.net.uk>
 To:  Tim Seifert <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  04-Dec-99 02:43:57
 Re:  [afb] Re: Kind of a prob...

Hi Neil,

> Tim Seifert said, 

>> It's about damn time this got renamed.  Kilo means one thousand, no
>> matter what base system you use to write the numbers in.  Whether that
>> be as one time ten to the third power, or anything else. 1024 (decimal)
>> bytes is *not* one thousand anythings in any way shape or form.

> The convention when using it for computer usage (and using 1024 makes a
> great deal of sense in many situations) is to use "k" for 1000 and "K"
> for 1024. 5KB is larger than 5kB (and a lot bigger than 5kb).
> Unfortunately, this falls down when you start talking megabytes, 5mb is
> rather too small to be useful.

Gee, there's a convention is there?  When did that start?  </sarcasm>

This is as bad as that PMPO rubbish.  And computer monitors incorrectly
measuring the non-visible part of the screen as a screen size.  And any
one of half a dozen other computer crap definitions...

There is only one way it's going to get properly resolved, and that's
to use some other name (that isn't a bastardisation of the SI k
abbreviation), and one that is rigidly defined.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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(Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) 
   
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Alan L.M. Buxey said something about [afb] Re: YAM YAM YAM and Registering MUI
 
> then theres all the commercial internet apps that use it. Other apps
> dont use it because it can introduce very hard to find bugs - and there
> is still a large anti-MUI movement that stemmed from the AMosaic fiasco

What AMosaic fiasco? It will well predate my time online, so I never
used it, but I'd be interested to know...
-- 
Anthony Prime
>>Milennium Bug? No Problem - Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

in a fit of sanity NL Crossfield said something about [afb] Re:
Further to the Active thread..

 
> As there is no working CD and Chris complained enough to get his
> money back, what has he got?. For the sake of downloading a couple
> of files my Netconnect [with all its little faults] works fine.

Likewise. The whole point of buying Netconnect is to be able to do
things like downloading updates :)

> With small  Businesses like Active trying to earn a few bob in the
> limited Amiga market, if we can't show a little give and take when
> things screw up then whose going to take the chance at producing
> future software.

Well said Norm! I'm sure I shan't be chasing Active for a fresh CD.
I'll just make a quick backup of the defective file replacements and
put them in a drawer. Really not worth the hassle.
-- 
Anthony Prime
>>Milennium Bug? No Problem - Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

Hello Andrew

On 27-Nov-99, you wrote:

> The specs for the PSX2 are quite interesting:
> 
> blah, blah,blah
> 
> waffle, waffle waffle

> Hey, it'll be better then a PC won't it?  :)

I've always had a quiet opinion that Sony should have bought the rights to
Amiga. As Sony seem to be about the only company that actually get off their
butts and do something when they say their gonna do it. Unlike past Amiga
owners..  Viscorp, Escom & Gateway.
Oh sorry, I forgot. Escom actually got some Amigas back in the shops. Even
though they were just re-branded A1200's.... :-[

4-0

Hello Jonathan

On 27-Nov-99, you wrote:

> Thanks for confirming my suspicions.  :)
> 
> I seem to remember when "Jaws" was released, we had tales of "grown men
> being physically sick". That'll be grown men with over-active imaginations
> and weak stomachs then...  :D

And you normally find that all these reports come from America.... nuff said
:-)

4-0

<sb>
<sb>A4000 CyberStorm 040, pIV, 74mb, 4.3gb HD
<sb>*eMAIL* 4-0@beamer.u-net.com
<sb>*URL* http://www.beamer.u-net.com
<sb>*IRC* DalNET --> AmIRC & Amigagames
<sb>

Hello oruk-amigan@excite.com

On 26-Nov-99, you wrote:

> and vote for Jay Miner!  ANN (Amiga Network News) had a posting about
> it to get Amigans to vote for our Jay, so come on vote now!  (We need
> 13,000 odd votes to beat Roosevelt (the long since gone American
> president) and only 61,000 to be no. 1 and beat Elvis!)  Oh well :)
> 
> Should be a bit of a laugh if we get Jay into the top 100! :))

Err, how would he actually collect his award?

4-0

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<sb>*eMAIL* 4-0@beamer.u-net.com
<sb>*URL* http://www.beamer.u-net.com
<sb>*IRC* DalNET --> AmIRC & Amigagames
<sb>

Hi Neil

> However, I spoke to Active today, they have reached agreement with the
> duplicators and new CDs will be pressed after Christmas.

Excellent news! I shall be waiting by the front door for the postie in
January with eager anticipation.

Chris Green
Technical Editor - Computing
VNU Business Publications, 32-34 Broadwick Street, London, W1A 2HG
..................................................................
Fax: +44 (0)207 316 9160      Email: chris_green@vnu.co.uk
ICQ: 10921400                 URL:   http://computing.vnunet.com
..................................................................

> Well, I got the CU mag, Emailed Hi-sof for the serial
> > number, wrote them down in my special book of important
> > information, and never even knew that MagicLink was there.
>
> I didn't think that MagicLink WAS there.
>
> I have it, but then that's because I bought the full
> version with that deal (+ manuals and stuff)

Well, the only place I could've got it was the CU coverdisc, and its in the
tools drawer.

4/12/99

Which OS would you like to see for a PPC-native Amiga?

Do we really need a totally new OS or a vastly improved version
of what we already have?


----

Please select one or more of the following:

   o AmigaOS port (OS4.0?)
   o QNX Neutrino
   o PowerOS
   o BeOS
   o Linux
   o Other (not incl. Windows or MacOS)


by going to the following Web form:

   http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=944304153391&listname=afb

Thank you!

4/12/99

Which OS would you like to see for a PPC-native Amiga?

Do we really need a totally new OS or a vastly improved version
of what we already have?


----

Please select one of the following:

   o AmigaOS port (OS4.0?)
   o QNX Neutrino
   o PowerOS
   o BeOS
   o Linux
   o Other (not incl. Windows or MacOS)


by going to the following Web form:

   http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=944304222036&listname=afb

Thank you!

It seems that a lot of people have got cinema 4d, just like me.

Ben, how about an advanced tutorial, such as animation and modelling?

Also, I'd like to know more about making models, maybe in a cad program
first.  How is this done, could I use Xcad to design the models, then import
them into C4d/Imagine?

I work in a printers/photographers, and when serving some customers -
(usually middle aged women) they sometimes say the phrase :

"ooh, cheap at half the price"

It's bloody annoying me now - what the hell does it mean?
Of course it's cheap at half the price - but it's not half price!

Hi Everybody,

> "ooh, cheap at half the price"
> 
> It's bloody annoying me now - what the hell does it mean?
> Of course it's cheap at half the price - but it's not half price!

   I'm not sure, but I think it means:

'Ooooh, thats twice as much as I'd pay for!'
 
See ya :)
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 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players!
  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
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the result's the same.
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Hello Colin,

On 03-Dez-99, you wrote:

> until I individually checked each Rom 'leg' that the problem cured
> itself, and with the exeption of ImageFX problems everything now works
> just fine.

I HAVE HEARD (means I can't check because I don't have ImageFX) that
there is an error in OS3.5's chooser.gadget and that there is a better
one in the ImageFX distribution. Try to overwrite OS3.5's chooser.gadget
with the ImageFX version (make a backup of the original one!).
Does it work? Really, I don't know, but someone on Amiga-News.de said it
solved his problems.

Regards
-- 
Oliver Esberger - mailto:oliver@websale.de

Greetings  Andrew 

On 04-Dec-99, you wrote:

> It seems that a lot of people have got cinema 4d, just like me.

> Ben, how about an advanced tutorial, such as animation and
> modelling?

> Also, I'd like to know more about making models, maybe in a cad
> program first. How is this done, could I use Xcad to design the
> models, then import them into C4d/Imagine?

Rather than designing models in x-cad, I would recommend a pencil and
a reem of paper :) 

I can't see how different designing a model in x-cad would be to
drawing a 2d profile directly in imagine?

As for a c4d tute in AF; I'm not sure if I would like to see heavy
coverage of a package no longer being developed. . .

There are many modelling/lighting/surfacing techniques that are fairly
generic; which would be a good way to go if there was to be a 3d tute.
Something usefull to all.

If you want to be software specific, then be specific about a package
folks can still buy a fairly recent version of :)





Regards

Andy
-- 
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Imagine textures and a few pictures@<http://esox.cjb.net>
/PGP Key available on request/

It is a hard road we travel, and a mighty long way we go
--Beenie Man - long road

Hello all,

Is there an equivalent to the _vector graphics_ prog Coral Draw on the Amiga.
I need to produce an assignment using this type of prog, and it cannot be
done using a bitmap prog.

Kind regards
Gary Jones
-- 

A4000  GVP 060/50
CV64
Dopus Magellan II

"it's finger licking good" -- Near Dark (Ch4 tonight 11-05pm)

Message text written by INTERNET:afb@egroups.com
>Are they really 100Mhz, or are they quoting the oscillator speed?<

As far as I can tell from the web site, the processors are 100MHz and 80M=
Hz
040's and 66MHz 030's.

I know that does not help much. If someone on the afb has bought one
already maybe they could fill us in on the details.

Regards,

Mike Q.

Hello Mike,
> 
> Makes you wonder though who actually beta tested OS3.5 and how much
> their feedback was listened to and acted upon.
> 
> I have actually just posted a note of criticism on the OS3.5 support
> mailing list on onelist.com
> 
> I wonder if H&P will reply to it......
> 
I have just bought 3.5 but as its a Chrisy present I have not
installed it yet. What is the address of the list?
Thanks
-- 
DaveK
AMIGA 1200t-ppc

> Rather than designing models in x-cad, I would recommend a pencil and
> a reem of paper :)
>
> I can't see how different designing a model in x-cad would be to
> drawing a 2d profile directly in imagine?
>
> As for a c4d tute in AF; I'm not sure if I would like to see heavy
> coverage of a package no longer being developed. . .
>
> There are many modelling/lighting/surfacing techniques that are fairly
> generic; which would be a good way to go if there was to be a 3d tute.
> Something usefull to all.
>
> If you want to be software specific, then be specific about a package
> folks can still buy a fairly recent version of :)

Good points made - but I don't know much about 3d at all (C4d, Imagine or
Lightwave), I get confused with words like kinematics etc.  So from my point
of view a decent tutorial would be great.

 As to building models - I know nothing.  I want, for example, a model of a
crash helmet.  I can't find one anywhere, so I gotta build one.  How can I
do that if I can't find information to do this?

> Hello all,
>
> Is there an equivalent to the _vector graphics_ prog Coral Draw on the
Amiga.
> I need to produce an assignment using this type of prog, and it cannot be
> done using a bitmap prog.

Yes - it's called Drawstudio 2 and take it from a professional graphic
designer - it's an excellent package.  It lacks a few features of the latest
Corel and Adobe Illustrator packages, but I'd say it is on a par with
CorelDRAW v5.

You can download a demo off Aminet, but as to purchasing it, I got mine from
LH Publishing - but Larry seems to have closed down.

Hi ppl,
I have an A500+ with Viper 520 accel. card; HD and CD-ROM on IDE interface.
Last week I purchased an internal IDE ATAPI Zip drive (bare) from Gasteiner,
thinking it would just lack the case, cables etc. and work fine just sitting
out on my desk, with the appropriate s/w.
However when it arrived and I opened it, there was a strange 4-pin power
connector at the back of the drive along with the IDE pins.  I connected the
IDE connector to make sure it fit, but I have no idea how to give it any
power!!!  The (PC) manual says to connect a spare internal computer power
supply cable to the Zip drive, but this is for PCs (and Amigas?) in towers.
Is there an adaptor or something from the mains so I can actually use the
drive, or was I stupid for not finding out what 'Internal bare' fully meant
and therefore do I have to return it?  Has anyone else had this problem or
have you all got towered Amigas?  I can't seem to find any External IDE Zip
drives anywhere, so if I had to return it, would I actually be able to use
an IDE Zip drive with my Amiga?
Also, when I power up my Amiga with the Zip drive connected, it refuses to
do anything, least of all try and boot.  If I connect the cable when the
Amiga is powered up and working, the whole system freezes!  Is this normal,
and would it behave properly if it had some power?
Thanks for any help,
Matt W

Hi Mash

> What would you like to see on the cover of AF?
> ----
>
> Please select one of the following:
>
>    o CD in jewel case (we have these now)
>    o CD in a single case (thinner type)
>    o CD in a wallet (like AA)
>    o Floppies
>    o Nothing (cheaper?)
>    o Something else every now and then (book, stickers etc)
>

Leave the poll up for a little longer next time, please.  BTW my choice
would have been for the CD in a wallet.

Jon
--

 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Matthew Wise <matthew@wise25.swinternet.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  04-Dec-99 23:34:19
 Re:  [afb] Internal IDE Zip drive

Hi Matthew,

> I have an A500+ with Viper 520 accel. card; HD and CD-ROM on IDE interface.
> Last week I purchased an internal IDE ATAPI Zip drive (bare) from Gasteiner,
> thinking it would just lack the case, cables etc. and work fine just sitting
> out on my desk, with the appropriate s/w.
> However when it arrived and I opened it, there was a strange 4-pin power
> connector at the back of the drive along with the IDE pins.  I connected the
> IDE connector to make sure it fit, but I have no idea how to give it any
> power!!!

It's the same power connector as used on CD-ROMs, 5 inch hard and floppy
drives.  It has +5 Volts, +12 Volts, and two ground wires.  You'll need
to supply it from the Amiga power supply (if it's strong enough), or get
another power supply, that can power everything.

> Also, when I power up my Amiga with the Zip drive connected, it refuses to
> do anything, least of all try and boot.  If I connect the cable when the
> Amiga is powered up and working, the whole system freezes!

Interfaces don't always like having an unpowered device attached.  SCSI
doesn't usually care, IDE always seems to (in my experience).

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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"alan l.m. buxey" <kcci-@central.susx.ac.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=38896
> 
> with MakeCD, did you select the right drive?
> 
Yep, driver being CDR_SCSI3_ATAPI

> I dont have a PowerFlyer, i do all of my stuff with a basic IDE-Buffer
> 4-way from eyetech
>  
Might try using it on the wife's machine she's using on those.
> 
Dave.

Jonathan Day wrote:

> Leave the poll up for a little longer next time, please.  BTW my choice
> would have been for the CD in a wallet.

I agree on both counts - another vote for wallets.

Regards,
Jonny.
--
Quantum Mechanics - the dreams stuff is made of.

Matthew Wise wrote:

> I have an A500+ with Viper 520 accel. card; HD and CD-ROM on IDE interface.
> Last week I purchased an internal IDE ATAPI Zip drive (bare) from Gasteiner,
> thinking it would just lack the case, cables etc. and work fine just sitting
> out on my desk, with the appropriate s/w.

Inadvisable, but possible.

> However when it arrived and I opened it, there was a strange 4-pin power
> connector at the back of the drive along with the IDE pins.  I connected the
> IDE connector to make sure it fit, but I have no idea how to give it any
> power!!!  The (PC) manual says to connect a spare internal computer power
> supply cable to the Zip drive, but this is for PCs (and Amigas?) in towers.

I'm afraid you're right. You'd find a couple of 'chains' of this type of
connector sprouting from the transformer inside boxed computers.

> Is there an adaptor or something from the mains so I can actually use the
> drive, or was I stupid for not finding out what 'Internal bare' fully meant
> and therefore do I have to return it?  Has anyone else had this problem or
> have you all got towered Amigas?  I can't seem to find any External IDE Zip
> drives anywhere, so if I had to return it, would I actually be able to use
> an IDE Zip drive with my Amiga?

As far as I know, no-one builds external IDE Zip drives, only SCSI (and
USB?). If you wanted to tidy things up a bit, you could look through the
Maplins catalogue (or similar) for a suitable box to house it.
If you're an electronics wizz, it might be possible to build some kind of
adaptor for the power, but my guess is that it needs to be supplied through
a transformer. My low budget solution would be to find a cheap PC
transformer,but I don't know how safe it is to leave these things lying
around 'naked' (another box, perhaps).

> Also, when I power up my Amiga with the Zip drive connected, it refuses to
> do anything, least of all try and boot.  If I connect the cable when the
> Amiga is powered up and working, the whole system freezes!  Is this normal,
> and would it behave properly if it had some power?
> Thanks for any help,
> Matt W

It's best not to connect or disconnect cables of any description while the
Amiga is powered up - it may freeze up for good! Get some power to the Zip
drive first, then check the rear of the drive for master/slave jumpers; the
Zip should be slave to the internal HD master.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Jonny.
--
I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem.

Hello 4-0

On 28-Nov-99, you wrote:

> Hello oruk-amigan@excite.com
> 
> On 26-Nov-99, you wrote:
> 
>> and vote for Jay Miner!  ANN (Amiga Network News) had a posting about
>> it to get Amigans to vote for our Jay, so come on vote now!  (We need
>> 13,000 odd votes to beat Roosevelt (the long since gone American
>> president) and only 61,000 to be no. 1 and beat Elvis!)  Oh well :)
>> 
>> Should be a bit of a laugh if we get Jay into the top 100! :))
> 
> Err, how would he actually collect his award?
> 
Think elvis & Roosevelt might have that problem too.

Regards
-- 
Roger

Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB
2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem,
Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer.
Website:-http://callnetuk.com/home/rogerbu

Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.
-- Albert Einstein

Hello Andrew

On 04-Dec-99, you wrote:

>> Hello all,
> 
> Yes - it's called Drawstudio 2 and take it from a professional graphic
> designer - it's an excellent package.  It lacks a few features of the latest
> Corel and Adobe Illustrator packages, but I'd say it is on a par with
> CorelDRAW v5.
> 
> You can download a demo off Aminet, but as to purchasing it, I got mine from
> LH Publishing - but Larry seems to have closed down.
> 
also lite version on cuamiga cd 16, november 97
Regards
-- 
Roger

Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB
2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem,
Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer.
Website:-http://callnetuk.com/home/rogerbu

Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint.
-- Mark Twain

Hi Andrew, on 4. Dec 1999 you wrote:

> Also, I'd like to know more about making models,
> maybe in a cad program first.  How is this done,
> could I use Xcad to design the models, then import
> them into C4d/Imagine?

In a previous answer, I mentioned the AmigaC4D ML.
Download the digests and read them.

If you by XCAD mean the one on CUCD, then you can
export 2D drawings in DXF format from XCAD 2000 2D
Detailer aka XCAD Designer.  This program has had
no major update in ten years, but I find the user
interface quite good.  Set up keyboard shortcuts
with the FKey commodity (not limited to the Amiga
function keys).

For both C4D and XCAD my advice is to get hold of
the manuals.  Ask around on the MLs and NGs.

Forget about XCAD 2000 3D Modeler, it cannot export
objects.  For that you will need XCAD 3D, aka XCAD
3000 3D Modeler, exporting in TurboSilver/Imagine
format.


Regards,

Armin

From: Sealey, M. <mws2@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: PPC operating systems


> But there are people here (well over 750 of them ;) that I
> wouldn't trust to bring me concise and conclusive evidence
> of something if their life depended on it ;)

That's all right - I wouldn't trust me either :)

> They are, by definition, students.

TTFN,
James (an ex-student)

Hi all,

Got meself a brand spanking new second-hand 1230-IV SCSI Kit the other day.
Fitted it and all:

Sysinfo lists "1230scsi.device" under DEVICES, so I presume it's working -
am I right?

Also got a 8Mb SIMM to put in the slot, to add to the 32Mb SIMM in the
actual accelerator.

*However* Sysinfo and ShowConfig (on 3.5) both show me as having 31.5Mb left
after boot-up (the other half-meg is due to ROM-mapping).

So - where has my other SIMM gone? I should have an extra 8Mb but I don't.
I've played with the (only) relevant jumper on the accelerator card - the
one that changes the speed between 60ns and 70ns - but to no avail. When
this jumper is set to what it *should* be i.e. 70ns it definitely doesn't
show the extra 8Mb.

I've asked the chap who sold it to me, but apparently it worked fine with
him (the SIMM was also his), so any ideas, anyone?

Cheers,
James.

> 
> > >   Hi Martin  I had the same problem but if i change to view icons
> it works.
> 
>             Hi again .I am sorry I presumed you use Dopus?I found if i view by icon HDToolbox whatever flavour you use will work.You allso have to have changed ,inthe tool types to squirrelscsi.device


-- 
                  Best Regards,Robert.                              
                   
Keyingham.  East Yorkshire.  A1200.Tower.                        






                               
                          

Hello 4-0

> Amiga owners.. Viscorp, Escom & Gateway. Oh sorry, I forgot. Escom
> actually got some Amigas back in the shops. Even though they were just
> re-branded A1200's.... :-[

 ... and they did a part exchange deal for 500 and 600 owners. I got my 1200
for 150 quid less than it would have been :)

Cheers, Tom U

<tsb>Quote of the day:

Finally, but by no means last ...
   Andy Peebles

On 4 Dec 1999, Tim Seifert wrote:

> 
> > 1. CD in a wallet (like AA)                                  1
> > 2. Something else every now and then (book, stickers etc)    2
> > 3. CD in a single case (thinner type)                        8
> > 4. CD in jewel case (we have these now)                     13
> 
> We're supposed to get a useful result out of 23 people?  This is a bit
> of a pointless poll.  Why wasn't it left to run for longer?

um, the 23 results gave a direct result anyway - you can see, for a
start that people want a case..either single or jewel..definately not a
wallet or disappearance of CD. 

alan

On 03-Dec-96, Andrew McCombe wrote:

>> Ok then what games are there that are 'doom clones' and support link
>> gaming by either modem or serial link.

> Well, theres Gloom Deluxe, thats the only one I know to.  Xtreme Racing is
> also a good game that uses the serial port function.  I've never tried it
> though as my serial port is taken with my MIDI interface.

Alien Breed 3D 1 and 2 both work linked up.

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

I am Peter Popoff of Borg. Prepare to reach God at 37.15 megahertz.

On 03-Dec-99, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:

> could be considered the world's first programmer! Whether she just used it
> to write a database of knitting patterns or great recipes will remain
> forever unknown ...

first porn website 8)

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Smoking cures weight problems... eventually.

Hi

More specifically, it is PAP which is saying the login sucessful message.
Anyone know how to shut this up, I don't really care, as long as it
connects

Mash
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Early to rise and ditto to bed, makes you socially dead.

hi,

> mistakes.  And then there is the blatant fact that, in the real world,
> having a degree might help get you in for an interview.  If you're lucky.

it also shows that you are interested in that field that you took th
degree in..and you are educated in that field. sure, almost anyone can
get a 3rd class degree, but as soon s you ask for only 1st class, you
really narrow the fild down. most of these people show a determination
and show that they will buckle down and learn and work...even with 10k
of debt on their head.

> positions vacant in any issue of Computing or Computer Weekly will specify
> that you need at least 2 years experience.  Then once you've shown that

i know...vicious circle. they even have the cheek of printing the
expected salary just to aggitate you even more!
if you want  doss easy computing job, join a university computing
service
;-)

> PS  Being a student means nothing these days anyway - universities are
> taking on more and more people, dropping the standards continually, on the
> grounds that the more people they enrol, the more money they get.  They
> know for a fact that many will drop out due to the increasing financial
> pressures, or simply because the work is too hard.

the teaching standard at almost all decent universities (ie not
converted colleges) hasnt changed that much..sizes of year intakes
doesnt affect most courses as they are lecture and book-reading based
(and having 200 in a lecture doesnt change the lecture)
todays papers are almost identical from those set in 1991 .
what has happened is more students just gettin 3rds an 2/2's - and
dropping out, and also getting in bigger debt due to the government not
knowing what to do with HE! I dont know why they got rid of
polytechnics...you knew if someone went to a poly that they'd hve a much
moe practical led course and more hands on experience...but this is
weeklong discussion that i'll stop now.

alan

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Maarten Draijer wrote:

> Got me a perfect add-on for my Amiga today for 35 pounds.
> 
> P133 with 32Mb, 3Gig, 15" mon, scanner sampler and the lot.
> It's a great slave for my A1200T, but much cheaper then a SCSI-scanner.

35 quid????

alan

On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, James Potter wrote:

> I've asked the chap who sold it to me, but apparently it worked fine with
> him (the SIMM was also his), so any ideas, anyone?


SIMMs can be funny little beasts..try swapping the simms around so the
8Mb is first (btw, are the simms the same speed?)

alan

Hello,

Ive got an offer for a A4000 for around =A3100
What id like to know is whether the revisions are the good or bad ones  (=
included in the mail was a picture with all these details on them, I dont=
 know how pertinant the numbers are:

Comodore A4000 Rev B.  =

45 Super Buster 1992.  390539-11.
PCB ASSY 364837.
PCB DWG 364838.
Schimatic 364836.
VTI - LISA (120 7R0) CBB 391227-01.
391010-01 8374 ALICE 1193 23.
A4000 PCBA

Is this worth the money? it also comes with:

Opalvision custom display card
scsi controller (obviously)
other software (list to come)
plus possibly a hard drive and memory

What do you think?


TTFN,
-- =

Bifford the Youngest
(Sam Byford)
Visit my site:
  http://www.biffordyoungest.u-net.com
 ICQ: 52983236
 IRC:  IRCNet #AmIRC or #Pub

Hi Matthew,

On 03-Dec-99 you wrote:

> More specifically,

Than what?  Sorry, I don't bother to read most of your posts so I don't know
what you're talking about... ;p

> it is PAP which is saying the login sucessful message.
> Anyone know how to shut this up, I don't really care, as long as it
> connects

Which TCP/IP stack?  If it's Miami, just iconify it and you won't see any
messages.

Martin.
-- 
<tsb>http://www.amine.co.uk

Hi Samuel,

On 04-Dec-99 you wrote:

> Ive got an offer for a A4000 for around 100

100 !??!?!

> What id like to know is
> whether the revisions are the good or bad ones

[snip revisions]

Who cares!?  For 100 just buy it!

> Is this worth the money?

YES!!!

> it also comes with:

> Opalvision custom display card
> scsi controller (obviously)
> other software (list to come)
> plus possibly a hard drive and memory

> What do you think?

I think you're completely mad to even ask, or you've made a typo with the
price.

Martin.
-- 
<tsb>http://www.amine.co.uk

Hello fool

>> Ive got an offer for a A4000 for around =A3100
> =

> =A3100 !??!?!

> Who cares!?  For =A3100 just buy it!
> =

>> Is this worth the money?
> =

> YES!!!

> I think you're completely mad to even ask, or you've made a typo with t=
he
> price.

:) kinda what I was figuring, but I know theres some dodgy(ish) revision =
out there, so I didnt want to buy one only to find I would have to spend =
through the nose to get it fixed...as it is I'll have to buy a decent acc=
elerator - G4 later or 060 PPC now? Hmm, hard one that! and then a tower =
if i really want to.

Is the opalvision a proper graphics card like a Cybergraphics or whatever=
 (obviously not PPC).

Regards
-- =

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(Sam Byford)
Visit my site:
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 ICQ: 52983236
 IRC:  IRCNet #AmIRC or #Pub

> On 03-Dec-96, Andrew McCombe wrote:
> 
> >> Ok then what games are there that are 'doom clones' and support link
> >> gaming by either modem or serial link.

Linkable games?

What about the classics...?

Populous II
Lotus II
Armour Geddon
Skid Marks
etc...

<AD> Check out http://www.miggybyte.freeserve.co.uk/totaled - For
Amiga Gaming cheats, codes, trainers and saved game files</AD> 

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Http://www.miggybyte.freeserve.co.uk/thexzone - Amiga Support Site

From: Alan L.M. Buxey <kcci1@central.susx.ac.uk>
To: <afb@egroups.com>

> SIMMs can be funny little beasts..try swapping the simms around so the
> 8Mb is first (btw, are the simms the same speed?)

Cheers Alan. I don't know what the speeds are, but I'll swap 'em round and
let you know.

TTFN,
James.

I've just updated from Voyager 3 version 3.0 whatever (pre-release 3) to
version 3.0.37 (pre-release 50. Now reporting I am not a registered user
etc. Does the new version require you to register again i.e pay for this
update.

I still have the Voyager.key (registered) in the s: directory.

Info appreciated.

Darren

Hi Armin

> >> Can I use Imagine models in Cinema 4D? If so, how,
> >> and also does anyone know of a cd that has C4d
> >> Models on? The CU Coverdisk doesn't have much with
> >> it, and without a manual I am learning the program
> >> through trial & error.
>
> > Umm, I'd say no. Imagine can save as imagine, dxf,
> > lightwave and 3d studio, but C4d can't even load dxf
> > :/, so its a bit pants
>
> > Mash -
>
> Well, you are certainly doing your best to live up to
> your nickname  :)
>
> The Amiga Cinema4D conversion tool MagicLink V3.2
> (18.1.96) converts beetween the following formats:
>
>   Caligari, C4D, DXF, Fastray, Imagine, Lightwave,
>   PageRender, Reflections, Sculpt and Videoscape.
>
> Also it saves in Real3D format.
>
> The conversion is not limited to objects.  For some
> formats part of the environment is also preserved,
> ie. lightsources and/or materials/textures/hierarchies.

I always found that MagicLink has a tendancy to introduce transparencies
where they're not supposed to be :-(

"Hmmm, why is this car see-through?"

Tatty byes
--
Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net
WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk
ICQ - 51206302

This week's long lie: Early computers were large not, as is commonly
believed, because we could not manufacture compact integrated circuits, but
because in the 1960's electrons were approximately 3cm in diameter, and so
space had to be left for them to move around in the circuitry. Nowadays,
more modern electrons are used, some of which are only 0.1mm in diameter.

Hi Matthew

> > I've written an HTML page, but it uses Javascript, Style Sheets and
> DHTML
> > (sort of) and looks great in IE but I was wondering if some kind
> souls would
> > check it to make sure it looks okay in not-quite-so-fancy browsers.
> >
> > You'll find it at
http://freespace.virgin.net/anna.furmanski/htmltest.html
> This nice, IE4, seems to like it, as does Naviagtor 4.5.

Excellent.  At least if somebody comes complaining to me it doesn't work I
can just say "Ah, you aint got the latest version" ;-)

> None of the latest Amiga browsers, support any kind of Style Sheets,
> and the best Javascript support is in AWeb. I think its just a matter
> of time before voyager supports a decent set of JS1.3, so you should be
> ok as long as you stick within that.

Righty ho.

> > BTW- what do navigator.appname and navigator.appversion return in the
> latest
> > amiga browsers?
> Just what you would expect,.. AWeb 3.2 // IBrowse 2.1 // Voyager 3,
> these are
> good as they can be used to have diffrent code depending on the
> browser. I mean, a plan page or alynx, some javascript for amiga
> browsers and the full blown version for IE5, and Netscape4.7.

Is there none of that extra crap that IE and NS shove in there (such as:

4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98)

for IE5)?

Tatty byes
--
Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net
WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk
ICQ - 51206302

This week's long lie: Early computers were large not, as is commonly
believed, because we could not manufacture compact integrated circuits, but
because in the 1960's electrons were approximately 3cm in diameter, and so
space had to be left for them to move around in the circuitry. Nowadays,
more modern electrons are used, some of which are only 0.1mm in diameter.

Hi Andrew

> I work in a printers/photographers, and when serving some customers -
> (usually middle aged women) they sometimes say the phrase :
>
> "ooh, cheap at half the price"
>
> It's bloody annoying me now - what the hell does it mean?
> Of course it's cheap at half the price - but it's not half price!

IIRC it's a belated attempt at sarcasm, originally derived from the latin
"culpo parentum".

Tatty byes
--
Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net
WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk
ICQ - 51206302

This week's lie: The earth stops orbiting of the sun every few days or so to
allow the moon to catch up.

"alan l.m. buxey" <kcci-@central.susx.ac.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=39035
> 
> On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Maarten Draijer wrote:
> 
> > Got me a perfect add-on for my Amiga today for 35 pounds.
> > 
> > P133 with 32Mb, 3Gig, 15" mon, scanner sampler and the lot.
> > It's a great slave for my A1200T, but much cheaper then a
SCSI-scanner.
> 
> 35 quid????

Sorry, 35 pound, 125 guilders in dutch

CU
maarten

waiting for my silver surfer to get a fast connection with my
peezee-slave

Hi M.
Somewhere around 03-Dec-99, you spewed some some gumph about [afb] Re: 3d
Objects in c4d

> I didn't think that MagicLink WAS there.

It was (is) on the coverdisk, in the tools dir

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Kill the lawyers first.

On 04-Dec-99, Matthew Wise wrote:

> it arrived and I opened it, there was a strange 4-pin power connector at
> the back of the drive along with the IDE pins. I connected the IDE

That strange 4way power connector is the most standard power conector on the
planet. Virtually every internal devide will use one. you could probably
get a splitter for the floppy drive power connector, but I'm not sure if
your power supply could cope with it.

> supply cable to the Zip drive, but this is for PCs (and Amigas?) in

yup, and amigas

> use the drive, or was I stupid for not finding out what 'Internal bare'
> fully meant 

No comment ;)

> problem or have you all got towered Amigas? 

aye. I've got enough room for about 10 or so 1200 mobos with harddrives in
mine (seriously, and enough juice to power and cool them

> up my Amiga with the Zip drive connected, it refuses to do anything, least
> of all try and boot. 

yup, the lack of power is screwing it all up, pretty conclusive.

> If I connect the cable when the Amiga is powered up
> and working, the whole system freezes! 

And pretty likely to short something out. DO NOT CONNECT WHILE THE POWER IS
ON! The best thing is to get a second hand 1200 is a tower, itll make life
so much easier

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

If at first you don't succeed.. read the book!

On 03-Dec-99, Chris Green wrote:

> Chris Green
> Technical Editor - Computing

/me looks at the credits in Computing (The IT Newspaper ;))

Cool!, so you are :) I've been reading it for months and never noticed. Hey,
how about a nice small amiga article or feature? even in the brief section?
Hang on.....Great big IT Newspaper.......amiga user...... surely you must
be able to wrangle some news out of someone!!?

Mash - grinning
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

I never punched a guy in the brain before! --1963 (comic book).

On 04-Dec-99, Andrew McCombe wrote:

> Good points made - but I don't know much about 3d at all (C4d, Imagine or
> Lightwave), I get confused with words like kinematics etc. So from my
> point of view a decent tutorial would be great.

I've been using 3d renderers for years and years, still dont know what it
is, although I've probably used it a hundered times, dont get bogged down
in terminology. idiots guide.

Booleon = cutting an object up
spline = smooth curvey thing
inverse kinematics = making joints bend

thats about it really. 

> As to building models - I know nothing. I want, for example, a model of a
> crash helmet. I can't find one anywhere, so I gotta build one. How can I
> do that if I can't find information to do this?

The best thing to do for a begginer is instal the imagine 4.0 coverdisk,
join the mailing list where you can ask any question the programmers
themselves will reply to you, the best way to do things really. Then, like
me buy the full version to show your support

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Crow: Oh, neat, he invented the quiver!   TOM:  So did *she*!  Woooo!

On 04-Dec-99, Jonathan Day wrote:

> Leave the poll up for a little longer next time, please.  BTW my choice
> would have been for the CD in a wallet.

Sorry, changing my addy, and didn't know how egroups would take it, so i
finished the poll much earlier than I'd have liked to

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

IBM             It Beats Mattel

On 04-Dec-99, Maarten Draijer wrote:

>> 35 quid????

> Sorry, 35 pound, 125 guilders in dutch

he knows what quid is, just not really believing that it was only 35 quid

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

PUNNY BOOK = Hollywood Gossip: Phyllis Zinn.

Hello All,

I've been trying to take part in the polls of late but YAM wont play
ball. When I click on the URL in a mail nothing happens.
I know that MD-II used to fire up Voyager and set the URL ok but YAM
seems to do nothing. I have Arexx in my startup draw so I know that
it is running.

Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get YAM to start Voyager?

Thanks in advance,

P.C.

I've seen talk about the dreamcast here, so I figured I'd post this.

There is a 3rd party assembler and emulator of the VM (memory card cum
handheld) available for unix systems (at http://marcus.mangakai.org/dc/
sw.html ) - I've had a look, but can't get it to compile - my lack of
understanding of the Xlib stuff, or of other people's C code is to
blame here)

but anyway, If there's anyone who wants to attempt the port - please
have a go - and let me know if you get anything to work, coz I'm really
desparate to stard developing my own games for the mini handheld
machine!

Hi there,
does anyone know (i.e. Pam) Andy Gibson's email address/website (not the one
at agasinc.demon.co.uk)?
I had it, but since my peecee screwed up, I've lost it. (PC's for internet,
Amigas for more interesting stuff...)
Cheers,
Drew Green
=======================
Drew.Green@btinternet.com

Hooray! Alan's suggestion worked!

I had to switch the two SIMMs round so that the 8Mb was in the accelerator
and the 32Mb was in the SCSI Kit.

Cheers again Alan :)

TTFN,
James.

Hello Darren,

On 04-Dez-99, you wrote:

> I've just updated from Voyager 3 version 3.0 whatever (pre-release 3)

This version did only work with keyfiles (either v2 or v3)

> to version 3.0.37 (pre-release 50. Now reporting I am not a registered
> user etc. Does the new version require you to register again i.e pay
> for this update.

Obviously you're only registered for Voyager 2. Have you already
upgraded to V3? (in other words: paid the upgrade fee?)

> I still have the Voyager.key (registered) in the s: directory.


Regards
-- 
Oliver Esberger - mailto:oliver@websale.de

Greetings  roger 

On 04-Dec-99, you wrote:

> Hello 4-0

> On 28-Nov-99, you wrote:

>> Hello oruk-amigan@excite.com
>> 
>> On 26-Nov-99, you wrote:
>> 
>>> and vote for Jay Miner! ANN (Amiga Network News) had a posting
>>> about it to get Amigans to vote for our Jay, so come on vote now!
>>> (We need 13,000 odd votes to beat Roosevelt (the long since gone
>>> American president) and only 61,000 to be no. 1 and beat Elvis!)
>>> Oh well :)

>>> Should be a bit of a laugh if we get Jay into the top 100! :))
>> 
>> Err, how would he actually collect his award?
>> 
> Think elvis & Roosevelt might have that problem too.

> Regards

Are you telling us that the king is dead?

Regards

Andy
-- 
<andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk>
Imagine textures and a few pictures@<http://esox.cjb.net>
/PGP Key available on request/

The only thing that stops God from sending another flood is that
the first one was useless.
-- Chamfort

Greetings  Gary 

On 04-Dec-99, you wrote:

> Hello all,

> Is there an equivalent to the _vector graphics_ prog Coral Draw on
> the Amiga. I need to produce an assignment using this type of prog,
> and it cannot be done using a bitmap prog.

Drawstudio is really, really good; but has become a bit hard to buy.
maybe Haage and Partner have the odd copy left. I bought it off Larry
Hickmott a few moons ago, but i know others have had no joy since.

You could use the version that was on an AF and CU cd if you don't
need 24bit output.

PageStream 3x has a reasonable set of drawing tools.

> Kind regards
> Gary Jones
Regards

Andy
-- 
<andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk>
Imagine textures and a few pictures@<http://esox.cjb.net>
/PGP Key available on request/

I think that God in creating man somewhat overestimated his ability.
-- Oscar Wilde

Greetings  Andrew 

On 04-Dec-99, you wrote:

*snip*

> As to building models - I know nothing. I want, for example, a
> model of a crash helmet. I can't find one anywhere, so I gotta build
> one. How can I do that if I can't find information to do this?

What sort of crash helmet? How detailed?

A full faced helmet with the visor down, with none of the inside
visible would be very simple to model. Add a sphere, and pull points
around to get the basic shape, faces can be culled from the sphere to
make the visor. . . 

There are hundred of imagine tutorials online.
http://www.kiruna.se/~cjo has links to hundreds of imagine sites.

How basic should the tutorials be?

(I am about to write an imagine tute, which will show you how to get a
vehicle to leave tyre-tracks behind it if anyone's interested )

"today we will use c4d to add a sphere and render a snooker ball" will
be a waste of space, as it teaches nothing that can't be achieved via
simple trial and error.

I wrote a small tute on building a bevelled die using imagine (can be
found at the imagine support site http://www.cadtech.demon.co.uk).
It's a very basic model to build; but it shows a couple of techniques
which are fairly fundimental to imagine modelling; and can be applied
to almost any object you'll build that's more complex than a snooker
ball.

If you want to get more out of imagine; I suggest you join the Imagine
mailing list, which is loaded with folks far more skilled than i.

The listserv is listserv@maelstrom.stjohns.edu
try SUBSCRIBE IMAGINE <you name> in the body. if that fails, try
sending HELP to find out what the correct command is ;)



Regards

Andy
-- 
<andy.k2@ukonline.co.uk>
Imagine textures and a few pictures@<http://esox.cjb.net>
/PGP Key available on request/

Experience is directly proportional to the value of equipment destroyed.
-- Carolyn Scheppner

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Not wanting to upset anyone, or disbelieve any comments, just worries me a =
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 and Amiga Active, I still like reading about them, and will get mine fixed=
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Laterz!

DAN

P.S. Just come back from DJing, that's why I'm posting at 2:12 AM.  And bef=
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wasn't as great as expected... nuff said!

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Hello Andy

On 05-Dec-99, you wrote:

>> Think elvis & Roosevelt might have that problem too.
> 
> Are you telling us that the king is dead?
> 
In fact, he's very much alive.....I saw Elvis in Las Vegas when I was there
in August. 

<Thang-you, thang-you-very-much> ;-0

Regards

chris
-- 
De...Do...Do...Do...De...Da...Da...Da.
-- De...Do...Do...De...Da...Da...Da, The Police

Powered by PowerPC Amiga in Dumfries & Galloway

A1200 Power Tower, 200Mhz PPC/060 50Mhz, BVision, 74Mb Ram, OS3.5, CGX V4.1

Panasonic 36" Wiiiiddeessccrreeennn TV, Pioneer 717 MultiRegion DVD, Denon
AC3 Decoder, JBL Speakers, Kef SubWoofer..... 

Hi All,

On 03-Dec-99, Matthew J Fletcher waxed lyrically on the theme of: [afb] An
Appoligy

>MJF Hi,..

>MJF To all who witnessed that nasty litte session with M.Sealey, it got a
>MJF bit out of hand and i should have removed it from the list. As he seems
>MJF to have shut up now, i will do to, i just hope nobody had to pay to
>MJF download any of that.

Actually, although I know very little (read nothing) about programming or
what makes OS's tick, I found myself engrossed in your little argument.
While some of the personal insults were a bit unecessary, I found the
actual debate quite informative even when your opinions differed. Apart
from the personal stuff, I for one am quite happy to download your (and
Matt Sealey's) mails.
I like the majority of ppl who use computers at work, have do use windows
and although it does what I want it to do, it just doesn't /feel/ as good
as AmigaDOS does. Don't ask me why because I haven't got a clue, it is just
how it feels to me, that's why I continue to use it.


Best Regards
-- 
<tsb>
Dave Morgan - phonix@reggae.musician.org.uk (Home)     ICQ:24796509
Amiga A1200, CBM 1084s 14" Monitor, Blizzard 1230/50, 68882, SCSI Kit, 2MB
chip, 48MB Fast, Western Digital 1.8Gb HD, Seagate 520MB HD, Matshita
8xSpeed Atapi/Ide CD-ROM, Plextor 12x Speed SCSI CD-Rom, Ricoh 6201s SCSI
CD-RW, Canon bjc-4200 printer, Microtek E3 scsi scanner, Hayes Accura
56k/v.90 modem.

<tsb>
"Unstable? Unstable!!!??? UNSTABLE!!!!?????"

<tsb>

Hi All,

On 28-Nov-99, 4-0 waxed lyrically on the theme of: [afb] Re: Vote For Jay
Miner!!


>4> Should be a bit of a laugh if we get Jay into the top 100! :))

>4 Err, how would he actually collect his award?

Or how would Roosevelt or Elvis, for that matter?


Best Regards
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Amiga A1200, CBM 1084s 14" Monitor, Blizzard 1230/50, 68882, SCSI Kit, 2MB
chip, 48MB Fast, Western Digital 1.8Gb HD, Seagate 520MB HD, Matshita
8xSpeed Atapi/Ide CD-ROM, Plextor 12x Speed SCSI CD-Rom, Ricoh 6201s SCSI
CD-RW, Canon bjc-4200 printer, Microtek E3 scsi scanner, Hayes Accura
56k/v.90 modem.

<tsb>
Blame Saint Andreas - it's all his fault.

<tsb>

Ben Vost said something about [afb] Re: Further to the Active thread..

> It would be if only a software company could rely on the products they've
> spent months on actually bringing in some cash. Three people have bought
> NetConnect 3 - the rest were upgrades. All the other sales have been lost
> to piracy.

3!!! That really is dreadful :( Bloody pirates...


-- 
Anthony Prime
>>Milennium Bug? No Problem - Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

Bifford the younger said something about [afb] Re: Money, Money, Money
(Kinda OT)

Hmmm, that subject line sounds kinda like spam to me :(

> > Barclays do Eurocheques. I posted one on a Wednesday evening and got
> > GoldED on the Friday :)

> Well, my branch doesnt.  As I have an account with them it was the first place I tried.  Then the post office, then HSBC, the Llyods, then Nationwide, Thomas Cook (NEVER use them) and lastly Travel Choice.

They *do*, but if you asked for a one off cheque you would have been
offered an International Money Order (Charge 8) which you could have
had in euro or DM.

Eurocheques come in a book in the same manner as your normal
chequebook. The advantage is that you can write them in many
currencies and a guarantee card is available (at a price). As Ben says
Visa/MC is increasingly the way to go, as now even switch cards can be
used overseas under an agreement with Maestro (part of mastercard).

Take a tip and order a book of eurocheques from your Bank, they're
free and if you post them abroad and they get lost you can stop them.

> >> Saying that, if Eilert was to accept credit cards this would all have been
> >> *sooo* much easier!

Agreed.
 
In future If anyone on this list is buying from overseas and wants
some advice on payment method, mail me off list. I was (until
September) an International Service Manager with a large Corporate
Bank.

But in general :

1. Use Visa/MC where you can.

2. Be amount sensitive. What price safety?

Less than 40 equiv = send cash between two sheets of card -
registed post, cost around 4

Less than 500 equiv = International Cheque/Draft/Money Order, cost
around 8-10, depending on Bank.

Above = International Payment order (Bank to Bank transfer made via
SWIFT), cost 10-20.

In my official capacity I couldn't ever suggest mailing cash, but on
this list I'll live in the real world, in so much as this list is in
the real world ;)

3. Keep the copies of anything your Bank issues safe, you'll need them
if it all goes wrong.

4. Some Banks will only do drafts/payments for their own customers
(Drug trafficing act considerations), but some will do small
transfers for none customers, so shop around but take some ID with
you. Best deals tend to come from major /international/ Banks,
(EG. HSBC or Barclays). People like Lloyds TSB and NatWest may be big
in the UK, but have fewer international connections and volumes, so
tend to cost a little more :/
-- 
Anthony Prime
>>Milennium Bug? No Problem - Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

Hot on the heels of a near death experience,  Kevin Fairhurst said
something about [afb] Re: An Appoligy

[snip]
 
> PPS I know that my email in which I deride someone's spelling and grammer
> is full of error's in itself, but after nearly getting killed by a flying
> ladder whilst driving at 60 mph, I feel i've got a valid excuse!   ;-)

What? Driving, avoiding death *and* typing an email at the same time.
Cool <;-)
-- 
Anthony Prime
>>Milennium Bug? No Problem - Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

Hi Guys

I have received a .zip compressed file and I don't have the software 
to decompress it. I suspect Aminet is the place to look, but I don't
(before you say "SEARCH AMINET" Mr Sealey) actaully know what to
search for.

If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd be grateful.

Thanks.
-- 
Anthony Prime
>>Milennium Bug? No Problem - Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

Neil Bothwick said something about [afb] Re: Further to the Active thread..

> > They don't need to send out jewel cases
> > or inners - just the CD in a wallet in a jiffy bag - total materials = 1.50
> > - extra effort required=time.
 
> Most people would probably be happy with a letter or email containing an
> explanation of the situation, an apology for any inconvenience and a
> commitment to supply a fixed CD when the situation is resolved.

Shame Chris doesn't seem to see it like that :/
-- 
Anthony Prime
>>Milennium Bug? No Problem - Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

Hi Matt

> > Leave the poll up for a little longer next time, please.  BTW my choice
> > would have been for the CD in a wallet.
>
> Sorry, changing my addy, and didn't know how egroups would take it, so i
> finished the poll much earlier than I'd have liked to
>
Have a look at totalise, not only is the service good, but my free shares
keep on coming.  Share distribution has changed too, so if you use it lots,
you get even more.  Not only that, but the shares are now trading at a
whopping 40p ;-)  /plug

Oh, and if you (or anyone else) are interested, please mail me off line, cos
then I can refer you and get a handfull more shares.  Cheers.   /money
grabbing

Jon

"david monk" <dmon-@firstnet.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=38818
> 
> >> I've got a Mitsumi 4802TE CDRW, I've had to stick it in the PC as
it's
> >> given me nothing but bother in the Amiga
> 
> >what software are you using? that make works fine here!
> 
> I've used MakeCD3.2 and MasterISO2.0 (I Think). The drive is set as
secondary
> slave on an  original powerflyer secondary master being a Phillips
X32 CD-ROM.
> MakeCD sort of works, throws up loads of errors and wont erase a disk
and
> wont simply copy a disk.
> MasterISO just doesn't work at all

Have you tried the latest version, Makecd 3.2c. I believe it has proper
support for this drive and it works fine with my Mitsumi 4804te drive.
I know that the demo versions of masterISO and burnit did not like my
drive.

If not then look for it at "Makecd.core.de"

Matt
----

Hello Anthony

On 05-Dec-99, you wrote:

> [snip]
> 
>> PPS I know that my email in which I deride someone's spelling and grammer
>> is full of error's in itself, but after nearly getting killed by a flying
>> ladder whilst driving at 60 mph, I feel i've got a valid excuse!   ;-)
> 
> What? Driving, avoiding death *and* typing an email at the same time.
> Cool <;-)

That's what multi-tasking is all about

Regards
-- 
Roger

Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB
2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem,
Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer.
Website:-http://callnetuk.com/home/rogerbu

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-- Albert Einstein

 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Anthony Prime <anthony@prime.clara.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  05-Dec-99 18:19:00
 Re:  [afb] Unzipping - no sniggering at the back...

Hi Anthony,

> I have received a .zip compressed file and I don't have the software 
> to decompress it. I suspect Aminet is the place to look, but I don't
> (before you say "SEARCH AMINET" Mr Sealey) actaully know what to
> search for.

Try Zip.lha and UnZip.lha for starters.

This address (below) lists where all the (supposedly) latest versions of
Zip can be downloaded from (for ALL computer types).

http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/doc/WHERE

Now what I want to know, is why hasn't someone brought out an archive
package playing on the velcro name (trademarks notwithstanding)?

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

-- 

  http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/tim_seifert 
mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au 
 
(Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) 
   
Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical
support, and more.  For further information visit the web site.  
 
***  DO  NOT  SEND  JUNK  MAIL  *** 
  

 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Jonathan M. Dudley <jonny@thelabyrinth.free-online.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  05-Dec-99 00:53:47
 Re:  [afb] Re: Internal IDE Zip drive

Hi Jonathan,

> As far as I know, no-one builds external IDE Zip drives, only SCSI (and
> USB?). If you wanted to tidy things up a bit, you could look through the
> Maplins catalogue (or similar) for a suitable box to house it.

I wish internal SCSI ones weren't so hard to find, or so expensive.

> If you're an electronics wizz, it might be possible to build some kind of
> adaptor for the power, but my guess is that it needs to be supplied through
> a transformer. My low budget solution would be to find a cheap PC
> transformer,but I don't know how safe it is to leave these things lying
> around 'naked' (another box, perhaps).

PC power supplies are inside a box already (you get a boxed PSU inside
your PC case).  They're boxed enough to stop you putting your fingers
onto something connected to power, but not enough to stop something
falling inside the case.  A cheap second hand /entire/ IBuM could be
used.  It might be totally useless hardware wise, but useful as a box
with a power supply, that you can either tap the power from, or install
your own junk inside the box.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

-- 

  http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/tim_seifert 
mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au 
 
(Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) 
   
Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical
support, and more.  For further information visit the web site.  
 
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 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Paul Crellin <p.crellin@ukonline.co.uk>
 To:  eGroups Calendar <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  05-Dec-99 06:45:22
 Re:  [afb] Polls

Hi Paul,

> I've been trying to take part in the polls of late but YAM wont play
> ball. When I click on the URL in a mail nothing happens.
> I know that MD-II used to fire up Voyager and set the URL ok but YAM
> seems to do nothing. I have Arexx in my startup draw so I know that
> it is running.

Is it just poll URIs that fail, or any?  I have no trouble with YAM, but
Thor won't work with some (it doesn't like various symbols in a URI).

Do you have a URI handling ARexx script, or have OpenURL installed?  YAM
uses either of these to handle URIs.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

-- 

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mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au 
 
(Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia) 
   
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support, and more.  For further information visit the web site.  
 
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Hello all,

thanks to everyone for the advcice on Drawstudio the assignment is started.

Regards
Gary Jones
-- 

A4000  GVP 060/50
CV64
Dopus Magellan II

"Bother", said Pooh, as he opened Pandora's present.

Hello all,

I have been trying to find out about my GVP g-force 060 50 accellerator, and
exactly what can be done with it.

I think I can add extra memory to it so that it runs faster?
Is it true that it will have a SCSI-II adaptor or was that an option?
What are the potentials for it?
How do I interrogate the card for info?

Can anybody point me in the direction of information on the above as I do not
seem to be finding very much.
Sorry to be a pain.

Kind regards
Gary Jones
-- 

A4000  GVP 060/50
CV64
Dopus Magellan II

"Bother", said Pooh, as his undies failed the Doorstep challenge.

Hello all,

I have a registered version of IBrowse 2.1 (68020 ver) which seems to reset
my system, resulting in an unvalidated partition(and I cannot find a trend
to pin down why). I cannot seem to find if there is a 68060 version so any
help as to how to find the cause would be great.

Kind regards
Gary Jones
-- 

A4000  GVP 060/50
CV64
Dopus Magellan II

"Bother", said Pooh, which was nice!

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 02:12:52 -0000, Dan Wood wibbled...

> Been reading through some old list archives off the AFCD recently, saw
> some talk of the worries of AF's future, since the circulation is now down
> to, 13,264.  CU closed at around 21,000, Ben assured us that Future do not
> expect as much as Emap did, but they did close every other Amiga mag they
> were running down, Amiga Shopper had a circulation of around 22,000 when
> they closed IIRC!

AP closed with a circulation of 18,704, but you've got to remember that
it's a lot cheaper for Future to produce one low-selling magazine than to
produce three covering much the same things (albeit in different styles).

And they would've carried on doing AP, but the entire staff were killed by
the Four Cyclists of The Apocalypse, so it was quite difficult to carry on
with it.

-- 
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-- http://www.thewibble.co.uk http://www.the-wibble.co.uk ICQ 28589940 --
- "I read The Wibble, and my boils immediately cleared up" - WJ, Cromer -
-------------------- Last Updated: 3rd December 1999 --------------------

Ok, again,what would you like to see on the front of the best mag ever (no not
that one) AF :)
----

Please select one of the following:

   o Nothing!
   o CD in wallet (like AA)
   o CD in slimmer single case (cheaper, fit more on a shelf)
   o CD in jewel case (like at the moment)
   o Floppies
   o A gift every now and then instead (book, stickers etc...)
   o Moon on a stick


by going to the following Web form:

   http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=944400660435&listname=afb

Thank you!

Hello Tim

On 05-Dec-99, you wrote:


> Do you have a URI handling ARexx script, or have OpenURL installed?
> YAM uses either of these to handle URIs.
> 

In the config-Arexx section the last entry is somthing about 'when
double clicking a URL'.

When I pick this the string gadget below shows the path
WORK:NetConnect/Arexx/GotoURL.yam

This has been saved and when I try clicking on a URL All that happenes
is that a requester comes up saying insert volume' Prog' in any drive.

AFAIK' Prog' doesnt exist.' Programs' does but is not in the path to
the GotoURL.yam script.

Any ideas as to whats happening?

Thanks in advance. 

P.C.

Hello Samuel Byford, on 04-Dec-99 18:03:35 you said about:
  [afb] A4000 Specs 

>Hello,

>Ive got an offer for a A4000 for around 100
>What id like to know is whether the revisions are the good or bad ones 
>(included in the mail was a picture with all these details on them, I dont
>know how pertinant the numbers are:

>Comodore A4000 Rev B.  
>45 Super Buster 1992.  390539-11.
>PCB ASSY 364837.
>PCB DWG 364838.
>Schimatic 364836.
>VTI - LISA (120 7R0) CBB 391227-01.
>391010-01 8374 ALICE 1193 23.
>A4000 PCBA

>Is this worth the money? it also comes with:

>Opalvision custom display card
>scsi controller (obviously)
>other software (list to come)
>plus possibly a hard drive and memory

>What do you think?

You have to ask? Take it, Rip his/her arms off and run away with it
laughing at them for selling it to you so cheaply....

Seriously, it has the revision 11 Buster chip, which is the one your
thinking of. The only other thing to check is that the battery
hasn't leaked and damaged the motherboard (it doesn't matter if there
is some leakage, as long it's done no damage).

-- 
 Andy Mills - http://www.wharne.u-net.com
 South West Amiga Group - http://www.swag.org.uk
 afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.the-works.org.uk
--
And all the Borg left was this darn Macintosh...

Hi,

You may or may not agree with me about my recent blood-letting episode
with the aforementioned sealey. But this is what got me really pissed of.

1) He claims that windows is both more stable and cheaper than linux. When
it is quite obvious that he has never used linux, has a mental block when
it comes to "free software", and adding up licence fees.

2) Claims he has inside information about the future direction of QNX.
When he is employed as a lab tech at leicester uni, in no position of
power or influence at all.

3) Says that making H&P totaly re-write amigaos in ppc code would be
quicker than using the readily available aros source code. When he has no
formal software engineering training nor has ever done any crediable
programming.

4) Claims that a red-brick university degree (first or honours), is
worthless. When it is quite clear that he does not have one, probably
because he is unable or unwilling to get one.


regards,

-- 
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amimjf@connectfree.co.uk                    http:bounce.to/matts
Matthew.Fletcher@student.shu.ac.uk    ICQ amimjf 44193496
--
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On 05-Dec-99 12:01:26 GMT, Gary Jones wrote:

> I have a registered version of IBrowse 2.1 (68020 ver) which seems to
> reset my system, resulting in an unvalidated partition(and I cannot find
> a trend to pin down why). I cannot seem to find if there is a 68060
> version so any help as to how to find the cause would be great.

Make sure you have the latest javascript libraries installed, available
from: http://www.hisoft.co.uk/amigashop/ibrowse_faq.html

Other than that, it's hard to say what the problem is - IB 2.1 certainly
doesn't crash very often for me.

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 /oliver.roberts@iname.com/  |  /oliver@amigaf1.freeserve.co.uk/
 http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/  -  ICQ: 34640231
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 Upgrade your Pace 56 Solo  ==>  http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/soloup/
<tsb>

matthew j fletcher <amimj-@connectfree.co.uk> wrote: 

 
> You may or may not agree with me about my recent blood-letting episode
> with the aforementioned sealey. But this is what got me really pissed
of.

Agreed Matt can sometimes be a bit on the brusque side, but AFB would
be a far less colourful place without him. He is entitled to his
opinions. Neither you or I need to agree with him, and if we do want to
take matters up with him we can, ideally off list. Personal abuse is a
different matter, but having read the exchange of the other day, it all
seems fairly harmless to me.
 
> 1) He claims that windows is both more stable and cheaper than linux.
When
> it is quite obvious that he has never used linux, has a mental block
when
> it comes to "free software", and adding up licence fees.

OK, this may be Matt`s view, is yours necessarily any more valid?

> 2) Claims he has inside information about the future direction of QNX.
> When he is employed as a lab tech at leicester uni, in no position of
> power or influence at all.

I claim that I have a brain the size of a planet, care to moderate me?

> 3) Says that making H&P totaly re-write amigaos in ppc code would be
> quicker than using the readily available aros source code. When he
has no
> formal software engineering training nor has ever done any crediable
> programming.

Opinion once again...

> 4) Claims that a red-brick university degree (first or honours), is
> worthless. When it is quite clear that he does not have one, probably
> because he is unable or unwilling to get one.

Matt does not have a degree. It does logically follow that he was
either unable or unwilling to read for one. This is not "probably" the
case.

Oh No! I`m starting to sound like the man himself ;)

On Sat, 04 Dec 1999 18:03:35 +0000, Samuel Byford (sam@biffordyoungest=2Eu-=
net=2Ecom) wrote:
> Hello,
>=20
> Ive got an offer for a A4000 for around =A3100
> What id like to know is whether the revisions are the good or bad ones  (=
included in the mail was a picture with all these details on them, I dont k=
now how pertinant the numbers are:

[snip!]

> What do you think?

You're stupid for having to ask if you should buy it?  If you ain't got the
cash, buy it on my behalf!  ;-)

Kev

--=20
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267

On Sun, Dec 05, 1999 at 02:56:40PM +0100, Matthew J Fletcher wrote:

> 1) He claims that windows is both more stable and cheaper than linux. When
> it is quite obvious that he has never used linux, has a mental block when
> it comes to "free software", and adding up licence fees.

Matt has significantly more experience than most people on this list when
it comes to running a Windows-based network. Matt also has significantly
more experience than most people on this list in running a network in a
real-world environment. If all your staff members are trained to use
Windows, then the price for Windows licenses is almost certainly
significantly less than that of retraining them to use a different
operating system.

> 2) Claims he has inside information about the future direction of QNX.
> When he is employed as a lab tech at leicester uni, in no position of
> power or influence at all.

Matt is involved in Phoenix. I have no doubt that he is party to more
information about QNX than you (or me, for that matter) are.

> 3) Says that making H&P totaly re-write amigaos in ppc code would be
> quicker than using the readily available aros source code. When he has no
> formal software engineering training nor has ever done any crediable
> programming.

Oh, come off it. Formal software engineering training will teach you how
to work well in a corporate environment where you have large numbers of
people working on a project to a deadline. In any case, have you seen the
AmigaOS source code? If H&P (who have) are planning on using that rather
than using AROS (which they can hardly fail to know about) then surely
they have good reasons for doing so?

> 4) Claims that a red-brick university degree (first or honours), is
> worthless. When it is quite clear that he does not have one, probably
> because he is unable or unwilling to get one.

Actually, I believe that he claimed that having a university degree did
not qualify you to run a network in a real-world environment. It doesn't.
Computer science is wonderful for teaching you the theory behind computer
usage, but in terms of vocational skills it's not wonderful. Of the Linux
network I help run here, precisely none of the administrators study
computer science.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

On 5 Dec 99 09:11:34 +0000, Anthony Prime (anthony@prime.clara.co.uk) wrote:
> Hot on the heels of a near death experience,  Kevin Fairhurst said
> something about [afb] Re: An Appoligy
> 
> [snip]
>  
> > PPS I know that my email in which I deride someone's spelling and grammer
> > is full of error's in itself, but after nearly getting killed by a flying
> > ladder whilst driving at 60 mph, I feel i've got a valid excuse!   ;-)
> 
> What? Driving, avoiding death *and* typing an email at the same time.
> Cool <;-)

Nah, I wasn't typing the email at the same time.  I was, however, filling
my pants, so I was still doing three things at once   ;-)

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267

Hello Matthew,

On 05-Dez-99, you wrote:

> You may or may not agree with me about my recent blood-letting episode
> with the aforementioned sealey. But this is what got me really pissed
> of.
> 
> 1) He claims that windows is both more stable and cheaper than linux.
> When it is quite obvious that he has never used linux, has a mental
> block when it comes to "free software", and adding up licence fees.

He is entitled to his own opinion, isn't he? I for one have to work
with WindowsNT4 every (working) day, it virtually never crashed, so
define more stable...
 
> 2) Claims he has inside information about the future direction of QNX.
> When he is employed as a lab tech at leicester uni, in no position of
> power or influence at all.

Is that a reason not to believe him? For all you know he could be a beta
tester with NDA.

> 3) Says that making H&P totaly re-write amigaos in ppc code would be
> quicker than using the readily available aros source code. When he has
> no formal software engineering training nor has ever done any
> crediable programming.

You do not need this kind of education to say this. The AmigaOS source
code implements 100% of AmigaOS' functions, the AROS team claim to have
reached 60% or so, and they've been saying so for a year now. And you
can't just "meld" the two together, they are two different things.

> 4) Claims that a red-brick university degree (first or honours), is
> worthless. When it is quite clear that he does not have one, probably
> because he is unable or unwilling to get one.

And? Relax, nobody forces you to agree with him.

Regards
-- 
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Hi Everybody,

>> It would be if only a software company could rely on the products they=
've
>> spent months on actually bringing in some cash. Three people have boug=
ht
>> NetConnect 3 - the rest were upgrades. All the other sales have been l=
ost
>> to piracy.
> =

> 3!!! That really is dreadful :( Bloody pirates...

   The rest were upgrades? And how many was that pray tell?

The low sales figure may simply because everyone already has netconnect 1=
 or 2, so they're just upgrading?

See ya :)
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Hi

On 29-Nov-99 10:53:51, Alan L.M. Buxey (kcci1@central.susx.ac.uk) wrote:

> On 23 Nov 1999, Thomas Hurst wrote:

>> The Amiga doesn't have "super duper" CPU's, it has ultra-slow ones,
>> very slow ones and dog slow ones...

> my Amiga has a PowerPC CPU that I wouldnt rate as any of those options..

PPC doesn't count, because sod all runs on them, and they aren't that fast
anyway.

>> As for GFX cards, well, I really can't see how anyone can live with the
>> pure EVIL that is AGA. I'd sooner dump my Amiga than use it without a
>> GFX card.

> sshhhhh! dont mention the gfx cards, or we'll both be castigated and
> expelled from the village! 8-)

Sod it, just get one or piss off and stop complaining, all of you ;)

Regards

Tom
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Hi

On 29-Nov-99 14:35:41, Tim Seifert (tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au) wrote:

>>> To be honest, I'd prefer it if MUI apps looked exactly like all other
>>> system GUIs,

>> The default setup looks very like a standard Amiga GUI to me...

> More of less, but not enough.

Plain, boxy, quite ugly... what more do you want? Overlapping elements and
topaz to give it that extra hint of Amiganess? <g>

>> Consistency is overrated as far as I'm concerned. Fair enough having
>> basic things that work between apps, such as the file menu coming first
>> and what have you, but having applications that all look the same isn't
>> exactly important, or even desirable.

> No, more like I'd like all dialogue displays and okay buttons on
> requesters, to be the same system-wide, etc.  And always having the same
> shortcut keys etc.

I agree... MUI requesters suck ass.. but nothing stops programmers from
using ASL etc, except pure lazyness.

>> The Amiga doesn't have "super duper" CPU's, it has ultra-slow ones,
>> very slow ones and dog slow ones...

> Which is why a dead slow GUI system, on many applications, that don't
> really need to use it either, is a bad thing.

MUI isn't dead slow... not as effecient as it might be, not not as bad as
some people like to make out. I agree, though, it's not really suitable to
some things.

>> As for GFX cards, well, I really can't see how anyone can live with the
>> pure EVIL that is AGA. I'd sooner dump my Amiga than use it without a
>> GFX card.

> Some of us would never have afforded buying a computer if it weren't for
> ye olde A500e, and the A1200.

And now peeps are practically giving them away... or selling "souped up"
ones for more than a decentish PC...

> Putting graphics cards into them is a bit too much trial and horror.

Yep... Amiga hardware kinda, erm, sucks... as does the software support,
when the OS doesn't even support half of it (nearly 2 decades, and still the
only real API to the audio hw's 3rd party... ditto GFX cards.

Regards

Tom
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Hi

On 30-Nov-99 14:53:09, riksweeney (riksweeney@hotmail.com) wrote:

> Give OS3.5 a go, it's great to have a smooth scrolling directory
> and no refreshing...

This is the one reason you cite for upgrading to OS 3.5?  Buwahahaha! Excuse
me while I try not to die laughing.

Regards

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Hi

On 29-Nov-99 11:36:39, Sealey, M. (mws2@leicester.ac.uk) wrote:

>> MUI is infinately more advanced and flexible than GadTools ever will
>> be.

> Right, I'll stop you there because it's not nice to compare MUI to
> Gadtools, they being totally different ways of doing things.

They both create GUI's... :)

>> It allows programmers to not worry too much about the size of 
>> elements, and making sure bits don't overlap etc. It also has decent
>> cut and paste support, unlike GadTools or ClassAct...

> ClassAct has cut and paste support, but it's limited to cuttint the
> ENTIRE string gadget rather than just a selected part.

Really? Never noticed any c&p support in CA whatsoever.

> This is a
> limitation of ClassAct's string.gadget more than ClassAct itself
> (which is not really a GUI system in it's own right anyway, it's
> just BOOPSI with knobs on) and I'll point out that MUI's cut and
> paste support is fairly limited until you apply certain patches
> and replacement gadgets..

I can't remember a time when MUI's C&P didn't rule...

>> As for GFX cards, well, I really can't see how anyone can 
>> live with the pure EVIL that is AGA.

> I can :)

You do? My God, you're wierd :)

>> I'd sooner dump my Amiga than use it  without a GFX card.

Regards

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Hi

On 19-Nov-99 12:47:04, Tim Seifert (tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au) wrote:

> Hello Thomas,

>> Yes, it's nice to have a GUI, and I'm not disputing that, but why does
>> having a GUI rule out having a filesystem based db, which makes it
>> sooooooooooooo much easier to automate stuff. Yam has a text based
>> config, as do MANY other applications, but it certainly doesn't rule
>> out having a GUI front end for them... it just makes it so much more
>> flexible.

Anyone who's tried to write a script to deal with db stuff know how
irritating the way Miami handles it is :/

> Thus far, all programs I've seen that use a text based (human readable)
> config file, seem to take an age to parse the data.  It beats me, I
> don't see why it should be so slow.

Probably because a) the programmers suck b) the CPU's suck c) the disk
caches suck d) something else e) all of the above (and the bit to the left
;).

>> Strange... maybe your ISP only allows MS-CHAP or something (if they
>> do, this means they suck, btw :)

e.g. BT Internet... ;)

> Nup, I'm not using MS-CHAP to connect with Miami.

Hmmm... maybe you suck then? Or Genesis sucks, or your ISP sucks for some
other reason :)

Regards

Tom
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undocumented external procedure.

Hi Everybody,

> PPC doesn't count, because sod all runs on them, and they aren't that f=
ast
> anyway.

   Thats weird, I could have swarn I had Linux running on my PPC amiga, a=
nd I certainly wouldn't call that nothing.

See ya :)
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 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Paul Crellin <p.crellin@ukonline.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  05-Dec-99 22:59:42
 Re:  [afb] Re: Polls

Hi Paul,

>> Do you have a URI handling ARexx script, or have OpenURL installed?
>> YAM uses either of these to handle URIs.


> In the config-Arexx section the last entry is somthing about 'when
> double clicking a URL'.
>
> When I pick this the string gadget below shows the path
> WORK:NetConnect/Arexx/GotoURL.yam
>
> This has been saved and when I try clicking on a URL All that happenes
> is that a requester comes up saying insert volume' Prog' in any drive.
>
> AFAIK' Prog' doesnt exist.' Programs' does but is not in the path to
> the GotoURL.yam script.
>
> Any ideas as to whats happening?

Yes.  YAM comes with a GoToURL.yam ARexx script in it's Rexx directory.
It works okay for me (I have a more elaborate script - downloadable from
my website).  YAM's script is in it's own Rexx dir, and the path you've
shown above seems to have lost part of the path, change it to the
setting (below) and it should work.

YAM:Rexx/GoToURL.yam

To save being asked what my own script does, here's the quick summary:

Links can be sent to the browser now; stored in a hotlist (a separate
file from the browsers own hotlist, so that it'll work on any browser),
and it has extra information (where the message came from, who from,
when, a note, and a link to read the original message in the browser);
or it can directly download the URI (for people who mailed direct links
to files), using a couple of external utilities to handle FTP or HTTP.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 By:  Anton <anthony@prime.clara.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@eGroups.com>
 On:  06-Dec-99 00:19:54
 Re:  [afb] Re: M.Sealey needs moderating

Hi Anton,

> I claim that I have a brain the size of a planet, care to moderate me?

But do all the diodes down your left side hurt?

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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> Hello Darren,

> On 04-Dez-99, you wrote:

>> I've just updated from Voyager 3 version 3.0 whatever (pre-release 3)

> This version did only work with keyfiles (either v2 or v3)

>> to version 3.0.37 (pre-release 50. Now reporting I am not a registered
>> user etc. Does the new version require you to register again i.e pay
>> for this update.

> Obviously you're only registered for Voyager 2. Have you already
> upgraded to V3? (in other words: paid the upgrade fee?)

>> I still have the Voyager.key (registered) in the s: directory.


> Regards

Thanks

Consider the upgrade done.

 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Samuel Byford <sam@biffordyoungest.u-net.com>
 To:  AFB <AFB@egroups.com>
 On:  03-Dec-99 01:11:05
 Re:  [afb] Money, Money, Money (Kinda OT)

Hi Samuel,

> Ive had a hell of day..............[really huge snip]....................
>
> Well, all sent off now, so hopefully I should have GoldEd before too long,
> but you would think that we the EU having their foot in our proverbial door
> we would have such things as EuroCheques by now.  Ben, you travel a lot. Do
> you have these problems?
>
> Saying that, if Eilert was to accept credit cards this would all have been
> *sooo* much easier!

I wish more software authors would think about these things.  Sending
cash overseas is not only risky, but who wants to wait several months
for some software key (that you might not get anyway), when you can go
looking for something else that you can use right now.

I've been registering various bits of software recently, and getting
thoroughly pissed off the process.  I've been waiting well over a week
for MUI now (at least I have a letter of apology from them saying a
technical problem has held up registrations).

I'd been meaning to register some other software for ages, but the only
on-line registration was from a UK site, that I've never managed to get
into for the last month or so that I've tried it.  And it's Vapor rego
tool, at one stage had it's price listed at $35 pounds, and I'm not
about to pay around $80-90 for /this/ program.  I eventually managed
when it became a more reasonable price.

When I finally did manage to get through to the server, it took well
over an hour to go through the process thanks to the slowness of SSL
(and their multi-stage process of handling the transaction).  But it's
nothing short of rediculous to try and deal with foreign software.

Bye,
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  The writers for the Dreamcast ads realy need to get their facts
right. One of them states that the Dreamcast is the only computer that
alows you to go on-line and send e-mails with a TV. Well last time I
checked my Amiga could do that, with a bit of upgrading the CD32
could! Have non-members of the Amiga community denied our existance or
what?

---------------
Satan >:)
---------------
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On Sun, Dec 05, 1999 at 09:01:24AM -0800, Satan wrote:
>   The writers for the Dreamcast ads realy need to get their facts
> right. One of them states that the Dreamcast is the only computer that
> alows you to go on-line and send e-mails with a TV. Well last time I
> checked my Amiga could do that, with a bit of upgrading the CD32
> could! Have non-members of the Amiga community denied our existance or
> what?

You can do the same with a PC or a Mac (or, come to that, an ST, an
Archimedes, a Commodore 64, a Spectrum or any number of other machines).
It's the only machine widely sold today that has both integrated
networking software and TV capabilities in that price range, though.

-- 
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Tim Seifert said something about [afb] Re: M.Sealey needs moderating

> But do all the diodes down your left side hurt?

LOL!

It's probably a good job I didn't get a degree, because I'm sure I'd
have ended up parking cars ;)
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Hi Matthew

On 04-Dec-99, you wrote:

> Is there an adaptor or something from the mains so I can actually use the
> drive, or was I stupid for not finding out what 'Internal bare' fully meant
> and therefore do I have to return it?  Has anyone else had this problem or
> have you all got towered Amigas?  I can't seem to find any External IDE Zip
> drives anywhere, so if I had to return it, would I actually be able to use
> an IDE Zip drive with my Amiga?

Whilst I hate to appear arrogant, "yes" is the best answer for this.

(I dread to think what Matt will say when he reads your message!)

To be honest, given the amount of equipment you have on your Amiga, a beefier
power supply might be a worthwhile investement in any case, as even the
slightly more powerful than the modern 1200's PSU is still very weedy.

Although I have a tower and a desktop case I use an external SCSI zip drive,
so I can use it on both machines without having to disassemble them.

Since the PC is the dominant machine on the market, external IDE drives would
be extremely rare. They use ones that connect to the parallel port instead.
This is slow, but possible on the Amiga, although it means building a small
interface first, which probably isn't a good idea, given the comments at the
end of your letter.

> Also, when I power up my Amiga with the Zip drive connected, it refuses to
> do anything, least of all try and boot.  If I connect the cable when the
> Amiga is powered up and working, the whole system freezes!  Is this normal,
> and would it behave properly if it had some power?

Stop doing that kind of thing at once!

You can't go plugging in IDE devices when the system's already booted up! Of
course it's going to hang, but you could cause physical problems by doing
things like that.

Your best bet would be to get a cheap 200 Watt PC PSU, rewire it as described
in many online sources for use in tower projects, and use it to power your
setup and extra drives... But please be careful, as there will be electricity
involved in this sort of project - I don't want to think of you lit up like an
Xmas tree! ;-)

Frost.
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On 30 Nov 99 Sealey, M. wrote about '[afb] Re: Modems and Miami'.

 SM> THAT SAID, I've still never seen a non-PCI winmodem..

Well, if you really want to see ont that badly, I've got an ISA version her=
e destined for the bin, if you want it? :)

Simon Archer

Gary Jones wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I have been trying to find out about my GVP g-force 060 50 accellerator, and
> exactly what can be done with it.
>
> I think I can add extra memory to it so that it runs faster?
>

That's for sure! According to AF88, from September 1996, your GVP 060 must have 4
SIMMs slots that can take up to 32mb each, single and double sided, and  you can
mix sizes from 4mb upwards. It will be a lot faster than the motherboard RAM
access. I just don't know if it is 72 pin SIMM or a GVP SIMM. Does anybody knows
it?

> Is it true that it will have a SCSI-II adaptor or was that an option?
> What are the potentials for it?

IIRC, the SCSI is a part of every GVP 060 board, and more, it is very fast! It
uses the NCR53C710 co-processor chip, one of the best used in the Amiga. You can
use FAST SCSI-2 drives with up to 10mbs per second(again, AF88).

>
> How do I interrogate the card for info?

Well, this I don't know. :-)
Best regards,
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I take it that this is not finished yet and havn't started distributing as
I've had a back order with Blittersoft for atleast 3 Months

One eagerly awaiting person

Darren

>  The writers for the Dreamcast ads realy need to get their facts
> right. One of them states that the Dreamcast is the only computer that
> alows you to go on-line and send e-mails with a TV. Well last time I
> checked my Amiga could do that, with a bit of upgrading the CD32
> could! Have non-members of the Amiga community denied our existance or
> what?

Personally I wouldn't consider it a computer, a rather flavoured games
console.

Regards

Darren

I know there's a way I just can't remember.

How do you change the priority of already running software, be it in shell
or whatever.

Thanks

Darren

> Hello all,

> I have a registered version of IBrowse 2.1 (68020 ver) which seems to
> reset my system, resulting in an unvalidated partition(and I cannot find a
> trend to pin down why). I cannot seem to find if there is a 68060 version
> so any help as to how to find the cause would be great.

> Kind regards
> Gary Jones

Assuming you don't have too many patches running, it sounds like a library
version which needs updating.

Regards

Darren

Are the NC3 disks Ok from Eyetech (not bugged) I just want the upgrade from
N2. All this stuff about the disks have stopped me upgrading also the trouble
people have had with OS3.5 which I would like to upgrade to, not to mention
trouble with any upgrade to Dir Opus (my full version still 5.5) 

So its 3 upgrades I would like to get which I have not done yet due to bad
press 


                 Cheers all the best

                       Ken 




  

> Hi Guys

> I have received a .zip compressed file and I don't have the software 
> to decompress it. I suspect Aminet is the place to look, but I don't
> (before you say "SEARCH AMINET" Mr Sealey) actaully know what to
> search for.

> If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd be grateful.

> Thanks.

Search for a program called "unzip". I'm sure this is also on the AF CD's

Darren

> Hi!

> Been reading through some old list archives off the AFCD recently, saw
> some talk of the worries of AF's future, since the circulation is now down
> to, 13,264. CU closed at around 21,000, Ben assured us that Future do not
> expect as much as Emap did, but they did close every other Amiga mag they
> were running down, Amiga Shopper had a circulation of around 22,000 when
> they closed IIRC!

> Not wanting to upset anyone, or disbelieve any comments, just worries me a
> bit, now that we know there probably won't be a future for the machine.

> Me? I haven't used an Amiga since the end of September, but I still buy AF
> and Amiga Active, I still like reading about them, and will get mine fixed
> up again some time in the future, just to reminice.

> 

Any input Ben

Regards

 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Thomas Hurst <tom.hurst@clara.net>
 To:  Tim Seifert <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  06-Dec-99 01:10:42
 Re:  [afb] Re: Using Root to login.

Hi Thomas,

>> Thus far, all programs I've seen that use a text based (human readable)
>> config file, seem to take an age to parse the data.  It beats me, I
>> don't see why it should be so slow.

> Probably because a) the programmers suck b) the CPU's suck c) the disk
> caches suck d) something else e) all of the above (and the bit to the left
> ;).

>>> Strange... maybe your ISP only allows MS-CHAP or something (if they
>>> do, this means they suck, btw :)

> e.g. BT Internet... ;)

>> Nup, I'm not using MS-CHAP to connect with Miami.

> Hmmm... maybe you suck then? Or Genesis sucks, or your ISP sucks for some
> other reason :)

I think you and Matt Sealy ought to be manacled together and locked in a
room with nothing but an XT and an Intel Op-code book.

> Regards

You don't seem to have many!  Maybe your attitude "sucks"?

Bye,
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Hi Everybody,
> I know there's a way I just can't remember.
> 
> How do you change the priority of already running software, be it in shell
> or whatever.

   Use a task manager program like Xopa or something

See ya :)
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in a fit of rage Ken Walsh said something about [afb] Re: NC3 was Further to the Active thread..

> Are the NC3 disks Ok from Eyetech (not bugged) I just want the upgrade from
> N2. All this stuff about the disks have stopped me upgrading also the trouble
> people have had with OS3.5 which I would like to upgrade to, not to mention
> trouble with any upgrade to Dir Opus (my full version still 5.5) 

I think you get the same disk at a lower price :)

> So its 3 upgrades I would like to get which I have not done yet due to bad
> press 

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On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 14:56:40 +0100, Matthew J Fletcher wibbled...

> 1) He claims that windows is both more stable and cheaper than linux. When
> it is quite obvious that he has never used linux, has a mental block when
> it comes to "free software", and adding up licence fees.

I wouldn't say he claims Windows is more stable; he offers the opinion
that he prefers it, maybe, and he is entitled to that opinion.

> 2) Claims he has inside information about the future direction of QNX.
> When he is employed as a lab tech at leicester uni, in no position of
> power or influence at all.

And you know this, do you? What would be the point of claiming he has
inside information if he doesn't really? It wouldn't get him any more
respect.

> 3) Says that making H&P totaly re-write amigaos in ppc code would be
> quicker than using the readily available aros source code. When he has no
> formal software engineering training nor has ever done any crediable
> programming.

It may be quicker to completely rewrite AmigaOS in PPC, and would
certainly work out a faster more efficient piece of software as well.
 
> 4) Claims that a red-brick university degree (first or honours), is
> worthless. 

That depends on the employer; some employers prefer 'real-world'
experience to having a degree.

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....big SNIP...

Look, if we start moderating Matt this list`ll go down the drain; well not
totally ;-)

OK so it would reduce the mails and my phone bill, but you need people like
him (no offense there) to keep the list active and amusing at times.  He
also has a lot of useful and good things to say.

And who`d be willing and got the time to moderate someone who participates
so much?

My tuppence worth anyways.

Jon

Tim Seifert said, 

>> Saying that, if Eilert was to accept credit cards this would all have been
>> *sooo* much easier!

> I wish more software authors would think about these things.

I'm sure they do think about these things, and come to the conclusion
that it is unviable, as I'm sure you would with the relevant
information. Here's the costs for a "high risk" business to start up
credit card operations in the UK (a mail order, small, computer
operation is about has high risk as it gets).

Set up charge  400
Monthly fee     15
Commission        5%

Selling ten products a month and 15 a time would generate 1800 in a year

From this you would pay 400 + 180 + 90 = 670 over a third of the
sales. In addition, you would be paying most of this out, and sending
out goods, before you received any payment. And if sales fall to half
that level, your income drops to 900 while your outgoings are still
625. This assumes that a bank would even be willing to consider you for
merchant status, which usually requires some trading history.

The only reasonable solution is services like RegNet. These are used
extensively by shareware authors on other platforms, but THOR and
the ak range are the only Amiga products that use them AFAIK. It seems
RegNet have recently reduced their surcharges, so maybe more authors
will try using them, although they still have the problem of waiting up
to three months for payment.


Neil
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darren silcock <darre-@d-m-s.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=39109
> >  The writers for the Dreamcast ads realy need to get their facts
> > right. One of them states that the Dreamcast is the only computer
that
> > alows you to go on-line and send e-mails with a TV. Well last time I
> > checked my Amiga could do that, with a bit of upgrading the CD32
> > could! Have non-members of the Amiga community denied our existance
or
> > what?
> 
> Personally I wouldn't consider it a computer, a rather flavoured games
> console.

More like a plastic slab...

Paul

> He is entitled to his own opinion, isn't he? I for one have to work
> with WindowsNT4 every (working) day, it virtually never crashed, so
> define more stable...

Hmm... I think I'm going to join this thread. Firstly, I have to say I agree
completely. NT4 is incredibly stable. The only thing that has ever gone wrong
with it on the network at the place I'm doing work placement is that Word
corrupts it's display when you start it, but only about once every couple of
months, probably having something to do with the fact we use the machine as a
workstation ;) NT4 itself hasn't ever crashed at the aforementioned place. And
rebooting once every two months isn't bad, I don't think.

When it comes to deciding what is stable and what is not, it's probably down
to the system, but I have to say Matt Sealey does know what he's talking about
when it comes to networks in 'the real world'. I was going to email him for
some advice about the network I work with, once, but we ended up ringing Tiny
instead :)

 Neil -
 http://www.trogsoft.co.uk  -  tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net
 --
 C:/DOS   C:/DOS/RUN   RUN/DOS/RUN

> 2) Claims he has inside information about the future direction of QNX.
> When he is employed as a lab tech at leicester uni, in no position of
> power or influence at all.

It doesn't really matter if your job puts you in a position of power or
influence. Not many people on here will have Amiga related jobs, since the
Amiga is mainly a hobby to most of us. Matt included, and since his job and
his Amiga use are two seperate things, I fail to see how that could
automatically mean he has no idea what is going on with QNX.

> 3) Says that making H&P totaly re-write amigaos in ppc code would be
> quicker than using the readily available aros source code. When he has no
> formal software engineering training nor has ever done any crediable
> programming.

I really don't know what's happening here, so I won't comment.

See, Matt? You do have supporters :)

 Neil -
 http://www.trogsoft.co.uk  -  tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net
 --
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On 05-Dec-99 21:42:34 GMT, Neil Bothwick wrote:

> The only reasonable solution is services like RegNet. These are used
> extensively by shareware authors on other platforms, but THOR and
> the ak range are the only Amiga products that use them AFAIK. It seems

Actually, there are quite a few Amiga products that use RegNet for
payment - searching all Amiga titles at http://www.reg.net/search.asp
gives a pretty long list, including my F1GP-Ed :)  I guess a lot of
the titles on there are obsolete though.

> RegNet have recently reduced their surcharges, so maybe more authors
> will try using them, although they still have the problem of waiting up
> to three months for payment.

Yeah :(  One good thing about RegNet is that you can choose to receive
your quarterly payment by cheque in your local currency, drawn on a
local bank, at no extra charge.  This is very handy, as I get cheques
(well, I used to when people registered F1GP-Ed ;( in pounds sterling,
drawn on a London branch of NatWest - i.e. can be payed in to accounts
just like a normal UK cheque.

I guess most people may be suspious of such services, not knowing
whether they can be trusted.  I was like that with RegNet, but now I
have no worries about them.  Their service has been top class so far,
and I even got a free t-shirt from them :)

There's also http://www.uksharereg.com/, but I don't know how reliable
they are - their HTML is pretty crap, if that's anything to go by :)
They're based in the Isle of Man.

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 http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/  -  ICQ: 34640231
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<tsb>

Hello,

I'm thinking about ordering some stuff from Alive Mediasoft *but* they don't
take credit cards,  I seem to remember, they applied for 'credit card
status' but must have been turned down or somefink.  

Any comments on their service/support?

regards

chris
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AC3 Decoder, JBL Speakers, Kef SubWoofer..... 

Hello Thomas

On 01-Dec-99, you wrote:

>> my Amiga has a PowerPC CPU that I wouldnt rate as any of those options..
> 
> PPC doesn't count, because sod all runs on them, and they aren't that fast
> anyway.
> 
How do you know?  Do you have one? Well......they're a damn-sight faster
than any
0x0 chip you've got in your miggy. ;-0

Regards

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Hello,

As anyone heard any more of the rumours that circulated earlier this year,
that id will release the Quake source at the end of the year?

regards

chris
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Hello Matthew

On 05-Dec-99, you wrote:

>> You may or may not agree with me about my recent blood-letting episode
>> with the aforementioned sealey. But this is what got me really pissed
>> of.
>> 
If he annoys/narks/irritates you.......just ignore him. ;-)

There are people in life that seem to get a kick from getting on a
soapbox and irritating others - don't be an audience.

Regards

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>>   The writers for the Dreamcast ads realy need to get their facts
>> right. One of them states that the Dreamcast is the only computer th=
at
>> alows you to go on-line and send e-mails with a TV. Well last time I=

>> checked my Amiga could do that, with a bit of upgrading the CD32
>> could! Have non-members of the Amiga community denied our existance =
or
>> what?

> You can do the same with a PC or a Mac (or, come to that, an ST, an
> Archimedes, a Commodore 64, a Spectrum or any number of other machine=
s).
> It's the only machine widely sold today that has both integrated
> networking software and TV capabilities in that price range, though.

Well.... PC's (yuk!) with TV-out GFX cards are available for less than =
=A3400
(Time computers)....

RobM
=

> Look, if we start moderating Matt this list`ll go down the drain; well not
> totally ;-)

> OK so it would reduce the mails and my phone bill, but you need people like
> him (no offense there) to keep the list active and amusing at times.  He
> also has a lot of useful and good things to say.

True - anyone who's followed my threads with Matt will know we seldom agree on
anything, but he certainly livens up the list, and despite what some people say
he *does* know what h's talking about (most of the time...).

RobM

> I work in a printers/photographers, and when serving some customers -
> (usually middle aged women) they sometimes say the phrase :
> 
> "ooh, cheap at half the price"
> 
> It's bloody annoying me now - what the hell does it mean?

The bloody idiots have taken a phrase and made it so obvious
it hurts, because their silly brains can't handle the joke in
the ORIGINAL and BETTER phrase:

"It'd be cheap at twice the price!"

Mutilation by those dumbasses in the dole queue (like my brother! Yaa!)

methinks.

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> Hi,
> 
> You may or may not agree with me about my recent blood-letting episode
> with the aforementioned sealey. But this is what got me really pissed
> of.

Pissed of what?

> 1) He claims that windows is both more stable and cheaper 
> than linux. When it is quite obvious that he has never used
> linux,

I have RedHat 6 and Corel Linux installed here as a matter of
fact. I hate Redhat, but Corel has a sort of charm to it that
I like.

> has a  mental block when it comes to "free software", and adding up
> licence fees.

Free software isn't as good as everyone makes out, that's all.

> 2) Claims he has inside information about the future direction of QNX.
> When he is employed as a lab tech at leicester uni, in no position of
> power or influence at all.

I'm a member of the Phoenix Platform Consortium, among other things,
and am privvy to more information than your narrow little mind could
ever handle.

> 3) Says that making H&P totaly re-write amigaos in ppc code would be
> quicker than using the readily available aros source code. When he
> has no formal software engineering training nor has ever done any
> crediable programming.

So says you who hasn't finished his formal software engineering training
nor has done any credible programming?

It would be illegal to release my code to the public domain because it
is the property of the University of Leicester, so you'd see - a few
executables which to YOU would do practically nothing (because they
rely on certain facilities to be available..)
 
> 4) Claims that a red-brick university degree (first or honours), is
> worthless. When it is quite clear that he does not have one, probably
> because he is unable or unwilling to get one.

Unwilling, __because_they_don't_mean_anything__ - why should I slog
my guts out on a pitiful student loan, getting into debt and living
in squalor for 3 or more years, just to get stressed, jaded beyond
extremes about life itself, pampered with cheap beer (which you'll
regret if you ever step outside the union bar and drink in the real
world) for what amounts to: a bit of paper and the ability to get
an Academically-related position somewhere.

Well blow me if I don't want to: by slogging my guts out HERE for 2
years, I can get any job YOU can get by virtue of real world
experience and superior interviewing technique ;)

Go moderate yourself, or at least crawl out of your own arse.

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

I would just like to thank my loyal base of supporters
for sticking by me.

Thanks, guys, it's almost tear-inducing :)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> I would just like to thank my loyal base of supporters
> for sticking by me.

> Thanks, guys, it's almost tear-inducing :)

Matt in tears..... I knew we'd do it one day!!  :)

RobM

> > I would just like to thank my loyal base of supporters
> > for sticking by me.
> 
> > Thanks, guys, it's almost tear-inducing :)
> 
> Matt in tears..... I knew we'd do it one day!!  :)

Note *almost* :)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

>> Matt in tears..... I knew we'd do it one day!!  :)

> Note *almost* :)

Well if that's a close as we're gonna get....
It's better than nothing!
;)

RobM

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:33:56 +0000,  (MARRISR@uk.ibm.com) wrote:
> 
> 
> > I would just like to thank my loyal base of supporters
> > for sticking by me.
> 
> > Thanks, guys, it's almost tear-inducing :)
> 
> Matt in tears..... I knew we'd do it one day!!  :)

And we didn't have to kick him ....

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267

>> > Thanks, guys, it's almost tear-inducing :)
>>
>> Matt in tears..... I knew we'd do it one day!!  :)

> And we didn't have to kick him ....

Now now - resist the temptation!!

RobM

On Sat, Dec 04, 1999 at 06:03:35PM +0000, Samuel Byford wrote:

> 45 Super Buster 1992.  390539-11.

This is one of the important ones - as you have an 11 your Zorro III and
Accelerators will work fine.

> Opalvision custom display card

Not a real graphics card - it is really a genlock/video production card -
but it is 24 bit, not as fast an PIV/CGFX, etc but is supported by Picasso96
and CGX4

> scsi controller (obviously)

Why obviously - The A4000 is an IDE machine so this must be a card in a
Zorro slot - damn useful.

> What do you think?

Buy it, buy it, buy it :)

l8r
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On Sun, Dec 05, 1999 at 02:56:40PM +0100, Matthew J Fletcher wrote:

> You may or may not agree with me about my recent blood-letting episode
> with the aforementioned sealey. But this is what got me really pissed of.

You are correct - I do *not* agree with you in your recent "discussion" with
Matt.

> 1) He claims that windows is both more stable and cheaper than linux. When
> it is quite obvious that he has never used linux, has a mental block when
> it comes to "free software", and adding up licence fees.

I claim that OS/400 is more stable than Sequent Unix - care to prove me
wrong? I know and have used both products extensively. With regard to free
software - what about OpenBSD, NetBSD and FreeBSD - Matt has experience of
one of these I believe(?) - so that would enable him to comment of Free unix
even if it wasn't Linux - Linux IS NOT THE BE ALL AND END ALL OF THE
COMPUTING WORLD. Thankyou.

> 2) Claims he has inside information about the future direction of QNX.
> When he is employed as a lab tech at leicester uni, in no position of
> power or influence at all.

Who gives a dingo what he works at during the day. One of my colleagues
writes TCP/IP RFCs in his spare time, although during the day he is a
programmer - does that make him unqualified?

> 3) Says that making H&P totaly re-write amigaos in ppc code would be
> quicker than using the readily available aros source code. When he has no
> formal software engineering training nor has ever done any crediable
> programming.

Go on then - you do it. I think you will find that such people as Olaf
Bartel have commented on this and agree with Matts viewpoint - and I for one
would listen to Olaf if he started telling me that the world was flat.

> 4) Claims that a red-brick university degree (first or honours), is
> worthless. When it is quite clear that he does not have one, probably
> because he is unable or unwilling to get one.

Again I agree with Matt - I have 5 'O' levels (remember them!) and earn
c.70K because of my 10 years networking knowledge. I work in a cutting-edge
company (as a contractor - they *wanted* me) with people who are f*****g
amazing at some of the stuff they do. There are people in this company who
defined ISDN (when it was invented), write code for GSM chips for phones,
etc, etc - most of these are skilled *not educated*. It makes a big
difference. 

Note the lack of smileys in this email - you have pissed me of too.

l8r
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> Again I agree with Matt - I have 5 'O' levels (remember them!) and ea=
rn
> c.=A370K because of my 10 years networking knowledge. I work in a cut=
ting-edge
    ^^^^
Show-off!   :)

RobM
=

On Mon, Dec 06, 1999 at 09:43:13AM +0000, MARRISR@uk.ibm.com wrote:

> > Again I agree with Matt - I have 5 'O' levels (remember them!) and earn
> > c.70K because of my 10 years networking knowledge. I work in a cutting-edge
>     ^^^^
> Show-off!   :)
> 

All because I left IBM :)

l8r

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>> Show-off!   :)

> All because I left IBM :)

Oohh - ye bugger!!  :)
As it goes, you're not the only contractor on this list - and IBM pays us well!

RobM

> Again I agree with Matt - I have 5 'O' levels (remember=20
> them!) and earn c.=A370K because of my 10 years networking
> knowledge.=20

=A370,000!?!?!?!?!?!?

/me faints at the thought of so much money

--=20
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk=20
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Mon, Dec 06, 1999 at 09:48:47AM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote:

> > Again I agree with Matt - I have 5 'O' levels (remember 
> > them!) and earn c.70K because of my 10 years networking
> > knowledge. 
> 
> 70,000!?!?!?!?!?!?
> 
> /me faints at the thought of so much money

Age 28 - married (second time) 1 daughter (baby)
Work record:
age 15 - YTS for PC/Mac dealer
age 16 - Support technician for Financial Corporate
age 17 - Network technician for Bank
age 21 - network installation engineer (cabling, routers, bridges, AS400,
PCs, OS/2) for Bank (same)
age 23 - team leader for support group for Bank (same)
age 25 - Level3 support - Networking systems for Bank (same)
age 27 - Level3 support - Networking systems over 10 sites for IBM
age 28 - Integration Consultant - current

When you get there it's great - but it took a lot of grunt :)

And all without any "further education" --- I am the case in point :)

l8r
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> On Mon, Dec 06, 1999 at 09:48:47AM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote:
>=20
> > > Again I agree with Matt - I have 5 'O' levels (remember=20
> > > them!) and earn c.=A370K because of my 10 years networking
> > > knowledge.=20
> >=20
> > =A370,000!?!?!?!?!?!?
> >=20
> > /me faints at the thought of so much money
>=20
> Age 28 - married (second time) 1 daughter (baby)
> Work record:
> age 15 - YTS for PC/Mac dealer
> age 16 - Support technician for Financial Corporate
> age 17 - Network technician for Bank
> age 21 - network installation engineer (cabling, routers,=20
> bridges, AS400, PCs, OS/2) for Bank (same)
> age 23 - team leader for support group for Bank (same)
> age 25 - Level3 support - Networking systems for Bank (same)
> age 27 - Level3 support - Networking systems over 10 sites for IBM
> age 28 - Integration Consultant - current
>=20
> When you get there it's great - but it took a lot of grunt :)
>=20
> And all without any "further education" --- I am the case in point :)

My hero!

--=20
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk=20
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

>> > Again I agree with Matt - I have 5 'O' levels (remember
>> > them!) and earn c.=A370K because of my 10 years networking
>> > knowledge.
>>
>> =A370,000!?!?!?!?!?!?
>>
>> /me faints at the thought of so much money

<snip>

> When you get there it's great - but it took a lot of grunt :)

> And all without any "further education" --- I am the case in point :)=


I agree that experience beats a degree hands down, but a degree with ex=
perience
(sandwich course, summer placement, etc) is easily the best to have - I=
've been
out of uni for 1.5 years and I earn a "significant percentage" of your =
wage....
with hardly any grunt!

RobM
=

On Mon, Dec 06, 1999 at 10:02:34AM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote:

> My hero!

LOL - You need to get out more :)

l8r
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On Mon, Dec 06, 1999 at 10:03:39AM +0000, MARRISR@uk.ibm.com wrote:

> I agree that experience beats a degree hands down, but a degree with experience
> (sandwich course, summer placement, etc) is easily the best to have - I've been
> out of uni for 1.5 years and I earn a "significant percentage" of your wage....
> with hardly any grunt!

Aaargghh!! That's why we hate graduates :)

Anyway, enough of this - let's get back to something more Amiga'ish...

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> Aaargghh!! That's why we hate graduates :)

But it does show that a degree has it's uses....

> Anyway, enough of this - let's get back to something more Amiga'ish...

OK then....

RobM

On Mon, Dec 06, 1999 at 10:14:07AM +0000, MARRISR@uk.ibm.com wrote:

> > Aaargghh!! That's why we hate graduates :)
> But it does show that a degree has it's uses....

Agreed - but the argument from Matthew was that a degree is better than
experience, whereas they really rate like this (for employers!):
1/ Experience with degree
2/ Experience
3/ Degree

> > Anyway, enough of this - let's get back to something more Amiga'ish...
> OK then....
Righty ho then...

l8r
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Hello Oliver


> Make sure you have the latest javascript libraries installed,
> available from: http://www.hisoft.co.uk/amigashop/ibrowse_faq.html
> Other than that, it's hard to say what the problem is - IB 2.1
> certainly doesn't crash very often for me.

I have that, but it crashesalmost every time I use it, if I try to make
several tasks at the same time, for example if some site has slow
connection and I try to dl another site. By exit it crashes quite often,
too. 3.5 made no difference.
 
Regards
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